I started thinking about Chinese industry after the war. It is my understanding that the Soviets removed a lot of industrial equipment from Manchuria as payment for defeating the Japanese. Also the was the the three "alls" being "kill all, burn all, loot all" policies of the Japanese during the war. Then there was the damage of the civil war and I read some where that some of the factories on the mainland were shipped to Taiwan as the Communist were taking over China.

If the British can help China defeat first the Japanese and then the communist, China may not see this massive destruction and looting. Also if the Chinese government avoid the massive corruption of the OTL, we may see a reasonably developed China which could avoid many of the sorrow of the second half of the 20th century.
 
7. To the East
A Hopeless Situation: The Tidal Wave Makes Landfall

While Japan’s westward thrust arrived at its target already beaten and bloody, the eastern strike force was having a merry time. Over the course of their 55 hour long journey over from Truk they had scarcely seen so much as the distant silhouette of a submarine, though there had been a number of false alarms.

On the morning of December 28th the troop ships carrying a brigade of men from the 16th Division entered the harbour of Rabul. As expected, the ghost town was completely undefended. The soldiers disembarked and secured the heights of the volcanic caldera surrounding the town as technicians surveyed and assessed what would need to be done to establish the port as a forward base.

It was more than just good planning on Japan’s part that the site they picked would be undefended, the entire Bismarck Archipelago was garrisoned by a single battalion. Even if Rabul was officially the capital of New Guinea Territory, there weren’t men to spare garrisoning its ruins.

Defences in New Guinea proper were better. As Australian territory the Government of Australia was able to deploy the Militia to defend the colony. As formations that had existed prior to the war there shouldn’t have been too much that needed to be done to stand up the militia divisions. However, the introduction of conscription for militia service meant that the prewar cadres of trained soldiers had been diluted with green troops in the months following the initial attack on Hong Kong. Additionally, the militia had already been somewhat under provisioned with modern equipment, and now was facing alarming shortages. Still, a well equipped brigade of pre-war personnel was assembled for the defence of eastern Papua. It was hoped that this would be enough to halt any Japanese force, as it had been anticipated that the Japanese would focus their thrust towards Singapore. The Australians were in for a rude Christmas Eve shock when news came in that the Far East Combined Bureau had decoded messages indicating that the Japanese were dividing their attention evenly between the British possessions on either side of the Dutch East Indies.

Australia was still scrambling to get more soldiers over when Lae came under aerial attack on the 29th. Similarly to what had went down on Borneo the night prior, a single brigade simply couldn’t hold the massive exposed coastline against a determined landing party. The Australian force’s commander, decorated WWI veteran Gordon Bennett, recognized that that wasn’t needed. Lae was flanked to the north and south by large rivers, only one of which was crossed by a bridge, a single bridge.

The Japanese may have expected that their enemy would wither away under sustained air attack, naval bombardment, and showers of mortars, and it did, but slower than may have been expected. Lae was a day one objective, yet it ended up falling only the fourth day and, due to the lack of an overall commander,[1] isolated pockets in the town persisted in their resistance through to day six.

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Arrival of Japanese equipment after the landing


Momentum Broken: The Rats Resist The Rising Sun

The Japanese intention had been to storm Lae then swing around by sea to capture Port Moresby. However, the holdup at Lae gave the INJ enough time to find out how the western operation had gone. Accordingly orders were received that the fleet elements were to be stripped out from the eastern operation so as to reassemble the combined fleet for another action against the British naval build up at Singapore.[2]

The sense of betrayal the IJA felt upon learning of this is perhaps best demonstrated by an incident on January 2nd, when a number of artillerymen are recorded to have been executed for the crime of firing their Type 90 field gun at the destroyer Yamagumo. While that particular detail may seem extreme, it is worth considering that the IJN's decision would mean no air support for any landing operation at Port Moresby,[3] and without that it would be impossible for a brigade to capture and hold the city. Instead, a brigade of the 16th division would advance over land while the troop ships returned to Truk to retrieve the 21st Division, which would take a week.

While the Japanese feuded, Gordon Bennett claimed that his escape from Lae was justified on the grounds of having determined how to beat the Japanese and the need to pass on this information. Having relocated via the airfield at Bulolo, he intended to prove the value of his “war-deciding experience” amongst the mountains of the Owen-Stanley Range. He was going to stop the Japanese with a battalion of local volunteers and conscripts augmented by a hundred some-odd men who escaped with him from Lae.

Operating from the airfield at Kokoda Bennett’s force travelled light and engaged in acts of sabotage against forward elements of the Japanese force. In a number of skirmishes Bennett’s men bloodied the enemy and retreated before they could be counter attacked, and many had an almost eager anticipation for how he would defend his base at Kodoka. However, in late January he simply cratered the runway and withdrew without firing a shot.

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Gordon Bennett at Kokoda​

What would he do when he could retreat no further? Fortunately for him that was never a real concern, as Australia was taking no chances and had surged three militia divisions into Port Moresby. By early February Bennett’s tiny force was rotated out of combat to recuperate, and the IJA faced a far stronger force. Port Moresby was secured for the time being.

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Australian infantry in the jungles of New Guinea

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[1] the man, the myth, the legend has “””heroically””” slipped out of Japan’s grasp iTTL too!

[2] the IJN has concluded that their loss during the Battle Off Borneo is down to them having failed to concentrate their forces, which honestly isn’t a bad assessment.

[3] the IJA would draft plans to acquire their own aircraft carriers after this incident.


A/N: Yes, it’s short, I really just wanted to get something out this weekend.

So, how is Mr. Bennett’s redemption arc going? VOTE NOW ON YOUR PHONES!
 
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While it may be short, it was full of action, bravery, betrayal by the IJN, and increasing the animosity between the IJA and IJN. The Japanese have Rabaul and the Bismarcks. Australia and her Allies will now start to set traps with their subs and MTB and wither the Japanese in the outer bases and garrisons.
 
Its always fun to read about the hilariously bad relationship between the IJN and IJA. Its a wonder how the Japanese got anything done with their armed forces seemingly on the verge of civil war at any given moment.
 
December 28th
Huzzah, a date!
If I could complain about anything in this thread's 'official' content, it's been the lack of clear dates for events (maybe it's just me losing track of things).
May I humbly request chapter titles going forward include dates covered in the text? It might navigation through the Threadmarks a little easier as well.

Great content as usual (18 pages of discussion and it's only 7 chapters in)! Well done, Seal!
 
Its always fun to read about the hilariously bad relationship between the IJN and IJA. Its a wonder how the Japanese got anything done with their armed forces seemingly on the verge of civil war at any given moment.
The real truth is they only started the 2nd World War because they had to get them fighting someone else
 
The real truth is they only started the 2nd World War because they had to get them fighting someone else
I'd call that an oversimplification but.... yeah, that's not inaccurate. You could easily say the whole mess in China was started because the Army wanted Dad to pay attention to them now.
"They can't cut our funding when we're belts deep in armed warfare!" is flawless logic I'm absolutely sure has been used by virtually every nation at some point.
 

Garrison

Donor
So its not looking like this being a quick war, unless the Japanese truly screw up and get France and the USA involved, but I'm sure they are far too cautious and careful to do that. ;) The situation in Europe is going to get complicated, yes the British are diverted but they are at war so rearmament is going to have to go into high gear, including providing new weapons for the army rather than focusing on the RAF as per OTL. Wondering what will happen if the Germans march into Prague as per OTL, will there still be a guarantee to Poland?
 
So its not looking like this being a quick war, unless the Japanese truly screw up and get France and the USA involved, but I'm sure they are far too cautious and careful to do that. ;) The situation in Europe is going to get complicated, yes the British are diverted but they are at war so rearmament is going to have to go into high gear, including providing new weapons for the army rather than focusing on the RAF as per OTL. Wondering what will happen if the Germans march into Prague as per OTL, will there still be a guarantee to Poland?

No war against Japan will be quick. Imagine how long WW2 would have gone on hand no nukes been dropped.

As for Germany and the guarantee to Poland, i'm not sure. The nightmare scenario for the Royal Navy in the 30's was war breaking out against Japan followed by Italy and then Germany joining in the fum, in that order. I would lean towards yes however because it's a deterrent to Germany and it's now backed up by the fact Britain went to war against Japan. The idea that the Britain at least is weak willed has been dashed somewhat.
 

Garrison

Donor
No war against Japan will be quick. Imagine how long WW2 would have gone on hand no nukes been dropped.

But set against that is the fact Japan isn't an existential threat to Britian in the same way Germany is, so terms may be possible, Britain certainly isn't going to be talking about unconditional surrender unless the USA get involved for some reason.

As for Germany and the guarantee to Poland, i'm not sure. The nightmare scenario for the Royal Navy in the 30's was war breaking out against Japan followed by Italy and then Germany joining in the fum, in that order. I would lean towards yes however because it's a deterrent to Germany and it's now backed up by the fact Britain went to war against Japan. The idea that the Britain at least is weak willed has been dashed somewhat.
And of course Britain's mobilization has just kicked up a gear. As you say any notion that Britain won't fight for what it sees as its strategic interests has been killed off and if it tells Germany to stay out of Poland at least some of the German leaders will treat it more seriously.
 
The nightmare scenario for the Royal Navy in the 30's was war breaking out against Japan followed by Italy and then Germany joining in the fum, in that order.
Since the naval war against Japan is going to be quite different from OTL's Atlantic campaign, what do you suppose the odds are of HMS Lion and Temeraire getting priority for construction in 1939 as planned instead of getting perpetually delayed for convoy escort needs? Even with wartime construction they still won't commission until 1941 at the earliest, but after the RN's gone toe to toe with the IJN for a few more rounds a couple more of the class might be ordered to replace ships damaged beyond reasonable expectations of repair or sunk.

And of course Britain's mobilization has just kicked up a gear. As you say any notion that Britain won't fight for what it sees as its strategic interests has been killed off and if it tells Germany to stay out of Poland at least some of the German leaders will treat it more seriously.
I think you're right. Britain's early rearmament will challenge a lot of German assumptions of just how much freedom they have to expand the Reich's influence around Europe. I could be very mistaken but I think a good deal of German planning was based on the idea of seizing as much territory as possible before the opposition could build up enough materiel to affect a response (rather similar to both the plans for the First World War and Japan's plan OTL). With Britain already on a war footing, the baseline expectations for Germany have all been reset. Very much looking forward to a summary episode looking at the situation in Europe during all this.
 
What do you all think the odds of Malta falling in the event of an Italian declaration of war? The Mediterranean fleet will be much weaker than OTL.
 
Since the naval war against Japan is going to be quite different from OTL's Atlantic campaign, what do you suppose the odds are of HMS Lion and Temeraire getting priority for construction in 1939 as planned instead of getting perpetually delayed for convoy escort needs? Even with wartime construction they still won't commission until 1941 at the earliest, but after the RN's gone toe to toe with the IJN for a few more rounds a couple more of the class might be ordered to replace ships damaged beyond reasonable expectations of repair or sunk.

Depends entirely on the way the war progresses. If carrier power comes to the fore quickly then they may get scrapped for more carriers. The Royal Navy doesn't fight fair, its plan for its carrier force was to hit the enemy at night in a series of attacks, not the massive sledgehammers of the USN or IJN. The thought process being that if your sledgehammer misses its wasted and your open to counter attack, also getting attacked all night will "disturb" the IJN's sleep. After that a surface engagement will likely occur but at a large advantage for the RN. If the RN hits the IJN at night and sinks a few carriers and Battleships then the value of building more Battleships yourself at the expense of more carriers comes in to question.
 
What do you all think the odds of Malta falling in the event of an Italian declaration of war? The Mediterranean fleet will be much weaker than OTL.

If that war happens it will depend on a number of things. If the war starts with a surprise attack on Malta then yes. If not and the IJN has been dealt with then no. If not and the IJN is still a threat then still likely no, but will depend. Their is also the chance France may cover the Med for the RN unofficially as the RN is protecting French colonial interests by dealing with Japan.
 
A minor but curious wrinkle in all of this is that the Japanese and Polish governments had a very good relationship, to the point that the Japanese would later politely decline Poland's declaration of war. (The only time I know of that anybody tried to do this.)
 

Garrison

Donor
France is a big question here, they can certainly be counted on to discourage the Italians in the Med, but they also have their own Far East possessions to worry about and history tells us that the Japanese are fully reckless enough to expand the conflict.

Other thing is what happens to Khalkin Gol? Will the Soviets see this war as an opportunity to push back against the Japanese in Manchuria earlier? Could you wind up with the British and Soviets as co-belligerents?
 
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