Ultimatum works when you can enforce it. At the start of the 1st Chechen War the separatists had been well armed and motivated while the Soviet Army was almost dysfunctional and those in charge had been adamantly against changing the existing schema by adding the contractors (stealing food and weapons from them would be much more difficult than from the helpless 18 years old boys). So before threatening you’ll have to make changes. Plenty of contract cadres were available (the former Afghanistan veterans).
A New Beginning - Our 1992 Russian Federation
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Probably they could but, AFAIK, the Russians in the Baltics states tended to consider themselves citizens of these states and not Russia and actively voted for the independence. The nationalist policies came somewhat later with the encouragement from the “west”.
Why did the West encourage that? Couldn't they see it would lead to instability?
But instability is pretty much what Brzeziński Doctrine is about: Russia is too big and has to be broken to the smaller easier to manage pieces which would be turned into suppliers of the natural resources. The doctrine was/is popular not only in our State Department and among the neocons and their liberal equivalents but in Europe as well. Pretty much the same goes for the military-strategic aspect: surrounding Russia with our satellites prevents the Soviet (post-Soviet) tanks from driving all the way to Place Pigale (or whatever other place the Russians are intended to conquer). 😂
If you remember, the Chechen separatists kept getting a full sympathy from our media, Euro Parliament, etc. until the openly terrorist activities made it rather inconvenient and nowadays there are all types of the excuses for the Baltic states making heroes out of the SS veterans.
Chapter Zero Point Ninety Nine: End of the Soviet Union (September - Dezember 1991)
(President Fyodorov's utmost priority was to prevent further collapse of Russia and Russian society)
Famine in Russia was narrowly avoided thanks to the efforts of President Fyodorov and Prime Yavlinsky. President Fyodorov, taking into account the disastrous food situation in Russia, appealed to the international community for help. Thanks to the immediate shipments of agricultural products from the United States, Europe and other countries, the situation could be stabilized by the Russian government. Furthermore, Prime Minister Yavlinsky successfully negotiated financial aid from the G7 group to stabilize the financial and economic situation in the country. While hardliners decried Fyodorov's and Yavlinsky's actions as treason, the population was grateful to the government, as their quick actions brought relief to the struggling population. In the meantime, republics leaders' message to President Fyodorov has put him in a dilemma – Fyodoror could either fight for preservation of the USSR tooth and nail together with Gorbachev, or coordinate the end of the Soviet state together with republic leaders and thus prepare for a major geopolitical shift, on terms that would be most favorable to Russia. After many hours of consultations with Yavlinsky and his closest political allies, Fyodorov decided for a "controlled demolition of the USSR".
(Prime Minister Yavlinsky was a mastermind behind of Russian economic transformation)
At the same time, the utmost priority for the Russian government was a prevention of total socio-political and economic collapse in Russia. The government's plan included the following points:
- gradual transition from socialist command economy to capitalist system;
- opening of the Russian market to foreign companies, goods and investments;
- reduction of military budget to be redirected towards socio-economic relief efforts;
- privatization of state owned agricultural lands and collectives;
- low tax rate and little bureaucratic time for opening of new companies;
- establishment of special economic zones;
- reorganization of state-owned defense assets;
- further anti-corruption campaign;
- introduction of new legal codes to protect the population from economic exploitation.
(Fyodorov during speech justifying his recent policies in regards to the Communist Party of RSFR)
The first step of Fyodorov's plan of controlled demolition of the USSR, was a presidential decree that completely separated the Communist Party of RSFSR from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union on the Russian territory, which in reality meant the end of Gorbachev's influence in Russia. Using popular support, Fyodorov subordinated the party to himself, which allowed him to implement his political vision without taking into account Gorbachev's objections. In the meantime, without Gorbachev's knowledge Fyodorov negiotiated the dissolution of the Soviet Union with republics leaders, which resulted in the Belovezha Accords, which was an agreement declaring that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) had effectively ceased to exist and establishing the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) in its place as a successor entity. The documentation was signed at the state dacha near Viskuli in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, Belarus on 8 December 1991, by leaders of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kirghizia, Tajikistan, Turkmenia and Uzbekistan. As a result of the Belovezha Accords, the following international organizations would be established:
- Commonwealth of Independent States (including all signatory states)
- Commonwealth of Independent States Free Trade Area (including all signatory states)
- Eurasian Economic Union (including all signatory states)
- Eurasian Customs Union (including all signatory states)
- Collective Security Treaty Organization (including all signatory states with except for Ukraine and Azebaijan)
- respect for rights of Russians and Russian-speaking people in other republics;
- dual citizenship for Russians and Russian-speaking people;
- Russian naval and military bases in Sevastopol to be leased for 99 years;
- formation of various common bodies in regard to discussion about pricing of natural resources;
- common development bank with headquarters in Moscow;
- nuclear warheads stockpiled in other republics to be shipped to Russia.
On 17 December 1991, along with 28 European countries, the European Economic Community, and four non-European countries, the three Baltic Republics and nine of the twelve remaining Soviet republics signed the European Energy Charter in the Hague as sovereign states. On the same day, members of the lower house of the union parliament (Council of the Union) held a meeting of People's Deputies of the Soviet Union. The meeting adopted a statement in connection with the signing of the Belovezhskaya Agreement and its ratification by the parliaments of signatory states, in which it noted that it considers the decisions made on the liquidation of state power and administration bodies illegal and not meeting the current situation and the vital interests of the peoples and stated that in the event further complication of the situation in the country reserves the right to convene in the future the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR.
(Leadership of various republics discussing the future cooperation)
On 18 December, the upper chamber of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR (Council of Republics) adopted a statement, according to which it accepts with understanding the Agreement on the creation of the Commonwealth of Independent States and considers it a real guarantee of a way out of the acute political and economic crisis. Gorbachev met with Fyodorov and accepted the fait accompli of the Soviet Union's dissolution. On the same day, the Supreme Soviet of the Russian SFSR adopted a statute to change Russia's legal name from "Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic" to "Russian Federation", showing that it was now a fully sovereign state. On 21 December, representatives of 11 of the 12 remaining republics – all except Georgia – signed the Alma-Ata Protocol, which confirmed the dissolution of the Union and formally established the CIS. They also "accepted" Gorbachev's resignation. The command of the Armed Forces of the USSR was entrusted to the Minister of Defense Yevgeny Shaposhnikov. Even at this moment, Gorbachev had not made any formal plans to leave the scene yet. However, with a majority of republics now agreeing that the Soviet Union no longer existed, Gorbachev bowed to the inevitable, telling CBS News that he would resign as soon as he saw that the CIS was indeed a reality.
In a nationally televised speech in the evening of 25 December, Gorbachev resigned as president of the Soviet Union – or, as he put it, "I hereby discontinue my activities at the post of President of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics." He declared the office extinct, and ceded all of its powers (such as control of the nuclear arsenal) to Fyodorov. On the night of 25 December, at 7:32 p.m. Moscow time, after Gorbachev appeared on television, the Soviet flag was lowered and the State Anthem of the Soviet Union was played for the last time and the Russian tricolor was raised in its place at 7:45 pm, symbolically marking the end of the Soviet Union. In his parting words, Gorbachev defended his record on domestic reform and détente, but conceded, "The old system collapsed before a new one had time to start working." On that same day, the President of the United States George H. W. Bush held a brief televised speech officially recognizing the independence of the 11 remaining republics.
Gorbachev's speech, as well as the replacement of the Soviet flag with the Russian flag, symbolically marked the end of the Soviet Union. However, the final legal step in the Soviet Union's demises came on 26 December, when the Soviet of Republics, the upper chamber of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union, voted the Soviet Union out of existence (the lower chamber, the Soviet of the Union, had been unable to work since 12 December, when the recall of the Russian deputies left it without a quorum). The following day Yeltsin moved into Gorbachev's former office, though the Russian authorities had taken over the suite two days earlier. The Soviet Armed Forces were placed under the command of the Commonwealth of Independent States, but were eventually subsumed by the newly independent republics, with the bulk becoming the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. By the end of 1991, the few remaining Soviet institutions that had not been taken over by Russia ceased operation, and individual republics assumed the central government's role.
The Alma-Ata Protocol also addressed other issues, including UN membership. Notably, Russia was authorized to assume the Soviet Union's UN membership, including its permanent seat on the Security Council. The Soviet Ambassador to the UN delivered a letter signed by Russian President Fyodorov to the UN Secretary-General dated 24 December 1991, informing him that by virtue of the Alma-Ata Protocol, Russia was the successor state to the USSR. After being circulated among the other UN member states, with no objection raised, the statement was declared accepted on the last day of the year, 31 December 1991.
(End of an era and a new beginning)
Wiki links:
Dissolution of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia
Belovezha Accords - Wikipedia
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1. Russian Federation as newly established state urgently needs a new constitution that would reflect the political reality. Please write down which provisions should the new Russian constitution include?
2. Please write down what should be done with the Communist Party of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, which in theory remains in power under President Fyodorov?
3. Please write down how should the Russian government deal with political unrest in Chechnya?
4. Should presidential and legislative elections should be held in Russia as soon as possible?
A) Yes, we need to organize them as soon as possible;
B) No, wait until the political situation in Russia is stabilized.
5. Please write down the name for President Fyodorov's new political party.
2. Please write down what should be done with the Communist Party of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, which in theory remains in power under President Fyodorov?
3. Please write down how should the Russian government deal with political unrest in Chechnya?
4. Should presidential and legislative elections should be held in Russia as soon as possible?
A) Yes, we need to organize them as soon as possible;
B) No, wait until the political situation in Russia is stabilized.
5. Please write down the name for President Fyodorov's new political party.
I was hoping for more mixed economic model like in China.
In Limited and controlled manner hopefully. I personally mentioned protectionist measures and controlled investments (30% I believe).
Special economic zones are places where we may see more full opening.
Don't know a lot about this so I'll wait to see some opinions. But I'll just say that no one is allowed to secede.
We should keep it as a transitiratory governing party for now and remake it into our own party. But for now we should keep current system.
Do military reorganization by hiring contractors from Afghan war and impose a Marshall law on Chechen territory while sending in the troops to enforce it.
B) No, wait until the political situation in Russia is stabilized.
Russia simply isn't ready for elections right now, our main priority should be economic transition and stabilization of situation within the country before we even think about the elections. Democracy needs a fertile ground for it to work. As of now we need a strong government to deal with immediate challenges.
Socialist Democratic party of Russia.
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It would be rather freer economic model than China, but the state will protect the rights of workers and citizens. Also trade unions should take an active part in economy.
Yes, I forgot to mention it, but your ratios are included in it.
You could write if Russia should presidential or semi-presidential republic, how long one term should take, freedom of speech, religion etc.
The only thing I really want to see is term limits for almost any elected official, people shouldn't be serving for multiple decades in the same position. (This is insane)
Elections are through Single Transferable Vote (STV)
Five year presidential terms
Two term limit for Presidents (Notably, if a president dies in office and you are their successor, that does NOT count as one of your terms) (Also, two terms period, not just consecutive)
-This is all I have for now, I might add more later-
Follow the plan @Kriss has put forward.
Again, follow the plan put forward by @Kriss
B) No, wait until the political situation in Russia is stabilized. If we try to go forward with elections immediately, while Fyodorov would likely win, the elections would be extremely chaotic as people try to find political positions they agree with. This is not the step forward we want to show the world, schedule elections for March 9th, 1995, and swear the new officials in at most one month after the election. (This date was chosen because I just really wanted to choose the birthdate of a famous Russian, this one is Yuri Gagarin's)
The Unity Party of the Federation (UPF)
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GDP Ranking (1991)
1. United States - $6,158,100M
2. Japan - $3,657,348M
3. Germany - $1,875,618M
4. France - $1,273,594M
5. United Kingdom - $1,250,006M
6. Italy - $1,227,727M
7. Canada - $612,514M
8. Spain - $576,446M
9. Russia - $521,963M
10. China - $413,209M
11. Brazil - $399,249M
12. Mexico - $348,139M
13. Netherlands -$331,097M
14. South Korea - $330,540M
15. Australia - $324,471M
2. Japan - $3,657,348M
3. Germany - $1,875,618M
4. France - $1,273,594M
5. United Kingdom - $1,250,006M
6. Italy - $1,227,727M
7. Canada - $612,514M
8. Spain - $576,446M
9. Russia - $521,963M
10. China - $413,209M
11. Brazil - $399,249M
12. Mexico - $348,139M
13. Netherlands -$331,097M
14. South Korea - $330,540M
15. Australia - $324,471M
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1 - For the new Federation, I think the following would be necessary:
Basic rights: similar to any modern constitution (freedom of worship, assembly, freedom of the press...)
State organization: Federated States, with freedom of internal organization, with their own parliament, but acting only in matters that the State has not reserved. To avoid secessionist temptations, the clause will be imposed that to separate, a parliamentary majority of 3/5 will be necessary, the calling of elections, and that again, it will be approved by 3/5.
Political system: Copy the French model with a president and a prime minister
Legislative system: A bicameral system (congress and senate), the electoral method for the congress will be of single jurisdiction, while for the senate, it will be of state jurisdiction (each state of the Russian Federation votes for its senators), with each state being able to appoint independently of the vote for a senator.
2 - Remain in power until new elections are called, and guarantee officials that they will be able to freely join new parties or remain in the same party, without fear of political or labor reprisals.
3 - On the one hand, recognize Chechnya as a republic within the Russian Federation, guaranteeing the freedom of religion and sovereignty of the Chechen people, but at the same time, initiate greater surveillance of the region by reinforcing local police units and making The secret service recruits informants to prevent problems in the area.
4 - B, elections must be held but in due time, let us begin a transition period that will lead to full democracy.
5 - Democratic Progress Party (DPP)
Basic rights: similar to any modern constitution (freedom of worship, assembly, freedom of the press...)
State organization: Federated States, with freedom of internal organization, with their own parliament, but acting only in matters that the State has not reserved. To avoid secessionist temptations, the clause will be imposed that to separate, a parliamentary majority of 3/5 will be necessary, the calling of elections, and that again, it will be approved by 3/5.
Political system: Copy the French model with a president and a prime minister
Legislative system: A bicameral system (congress and senate), the electoral method for the congress will be of single jurisdiction, while for the senate, it will be of state jurisdiction (each state of the Russian Federation votes for its senators), with each state being able to appoint independently of the vote for a senator.
2 - Remain in power until new elections are called, and guarantee officials that they will be able to freely join new parties or remain in the same party, without fear of political or labor reprisals.
3 - On the one hand, recognize Chechnya as a republic within the Russian Federation, guaranteeing the freedom of religion and sovereignty of the Chechen people, but at the same time, initiate greater surveillance of the region by reinforcing local police units and making The secret service recruits informants to prevent problems in the area.
4 - B, elections must be held but in due time, let us begin a transition period that will lead to full democracy.
5 - Democratic Progress Party (DPP)
We're lower than Spain, of all countries it had to be Spain!
More seriously, getting the economy back on track is going to be a priority in Russia for the next few years. While I don't think we will hit the explosive growth that China will have in the coming years, successfully climbing back into the top 5 for GDP is extremely important for prestige both domestic and international.
Yes, it shows how much Russia, a country with such a great potential, has fallen. Fortunately, at last Russia is governed by a capable leadership for the first time sine I don't know.We're lower than Spain, of all countries it had to be Spain!
More seriously, getting the economy back on track is going to be a priority in Russia for the next few years. While I don't think we will hit the explosive growth that China will have in the coming years, successfully climbing back into the top 5 for GDP is extremely important for prestige both domestic and international.
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Okay so here's my idea for the constitution.
- Type of government we should have should be Semi-presidential republic where presidential cabinet answering to legislature of the state.
- Term should be 5 years for every president/Primeminister .Two terms limit (note that person that was president one term cannot serve as Primeminister for another two terms, they should only be able to serve one term).
- Freedom of expression should be guaranteed until it actively harms other people's and interests of the state.
- State should be secular with special relations to Russian Ortodox Church. Freedom of religion is guaranteed as long as it doesn't actively harm the state. Religious leaders can be legally prosecuted.
- Parliament is highest legislative body of the land to which all government answers to. It also has power to dismiss the government, or presidential cabinet in no confidence vote with 60% majority.
- Executive branch is represented by the President, Primeminister and their cabinet/Government.
- President has power to appoint Primeminister, Minister of defense and forgein affairs, head of the Central Bank while Primeminister on second hand has authority to appoint other ministers.
- The judicial branch is headed by the Federal Constitutional Court, which oversees the constitutionality of laws. It should modeled after German court system.
- Russian federation is federal state with republics not having the right to secede without approval from the Government and Parliament.
- Rights of individual oblasts within the federation should be negotiated separately, but Central government has major say over Makroeconmic questions , distribution of budget , Printing of the money, control of central Bank, Russian Export import Bank, Russian Development Bank etc. Oblasts have regional Banks and can distribute budget assigned to them by federal government and finance local projects.
- Oblasts have a 80 to 70 % share in exploitation of Natural Resources
- Central Government decides on military budget that is to be followed universally
- Military service of 1 year is legally binding for all males from 18 years of age (Can be avoided by joining civil battalions for two years and working on public projects).
- Social service (helping in public kitchens, hospitals etc.) Is legally binding for all females over 18 years for one and half year ( it can be avoided by serving military service of one year).
- Minorities have Linguistic autonomy and rights to learn their own language, but Russians aren't obliged to attend the classes and can choose to learn only Russian which is officiall language of the land.
Idk what else...
- Type of government we should have should be Semi-presidential republic where presidential cabinet answering to legislature of the state.
- Term should be 5 years for every president/Primeminister .Two terms limit (note that person that was president one term cannot serve as Primeminister for another two terms, they should only be able to serve one term).
- Freedom of expression should be guaranteed until it actively harms other people's and interests of the state.
- State should be secular with special relations to Russian Ortodox Church. Freedom of religion is guaranteed as long as it doesn't actively harm the state. Religious leaders can be legally prosecuted.
- Parliament is highest legislative body of the land to which all government answers to. It also has power to dismiss the government, or presidential cabinet in no confidence vote with 60% majority.
- Executive branch is represented by the President, Primeminister and their cabinet/Government.
- President has power to appoint Primeminister, Minister of defense and forgein affairs, head of the Central Bank while Primeminister on second hand has authority to appoint other ministers.
- The judicial branch is headed by the Federal Constitutional Court, which oversees the constitutionality of laws. It should modeled after German court system.
- Russian federation is federal state with republics not having the right to secede without approval from the Government and Parliament.
- Rights of individual oblasts within the federation should be negotiated separately, but Central government has major say over Makroeconmic questions , distribution of budget , Printing of the money, control of central Bank, Russian Export import Bank, Russian Development Bank etc. Oblasts have regional Banks and can distribute budget assigned to them by federal government and finance local projects.
- Oblasts have a 80 to 70 % share in exploitation of Natural Resources
- Central Government decides on military budget that is to be followed universally
- Military service of 1 year is legally binding for all males from 18 years of age (Can be avoided by joining civil battalions for two years and working on public projects).
- Social service (helping in public kitchens, hospitals etc.) Is legally binding for all females over 18 years for one and half year ( it can be avoided by serving military service of one year).
- Minorities have Linguistic autonomy and rights to learn their own language, but Russians aren't obliged to attend the classes and can choose to learn only Russian which is officiall language of the land.
Idk what else...
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I think the only change I would make is to this, where you can join civil battalions to work on public projects (Infrastructure, housing, etc.) to get out of military service, maybe make it 2 years to try and keep some going to the military, since theirs is only a year long. Otherwise this is a great list!
Edit: This option is mostly put there so conscientious objectors don't have to serve, but others can get out of military service with it too.
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Makes sense. I added it. I also prolonged social services for women for another half year to get them to serve the military as well.
Proposed Presidential Line of Succession:
Note 2: This should be all the ministries/agencies founded by the time Russia declares independence from the USSR, but if I missed one or put one that hadn't been founded yet, let me know and I will change it accordingly
Edit: I know this seems security heavy on the top, and it is, but if we are getting further down the line of succession than Prime Minister or heads of parliament, then something is going wrong and maybe someone should look into that. In the American line of succession, it goes VP, Speaker of the House, President pro tempore of the Senate, and then secretaries of departments in the order they were founded. Nothing against whoever may be Secretary of Transport in the US, if God forbid, we get that far down in succession, but maybe the Director of Homeland Security should be stepping in before them.
- Prime Minister
- Head of Parliament (if two chambered, first is the head of the upper house, and second head of the lower house)
- Minister of Foreign Affairs
- Minister of the Interior
- Minister of Defense
- Director of the FSB
- Minister of Justice
- Minister of Finance
- Minister of Emergency Situations
- Minister of Labor
- Minister of the Economy
- Minister of Education
- Minister of Agriculture
- Minister of Health
- Minister of Industry and Trade
- Minister of Transport
- Minister of Energy
- Minister of the Environment
Note 2: This should be all the ministries/agencies founded by the time Russia declares independence from the USSR, but if I missed one or put one that hadn't been founded yet, let me know and I will change it accordingly
Edit: I know this seems security heavy on the top, and it is, but if we are getting further down the line of succession than Prime Minister or heads of parliament, then something is going wrong and maybe someone should look into that. In the American line of succession, it goes VP, Speaker of the House, President pro tempore of the Senate, and then secretaries of departments in the order they were founded. Nothing against whoever may be Secretary of Transport in the US, if God forbid, we get that far down in succession, but maybe the Director of Homeland Security should be stepping in before them.
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