WIChallenge: Non-Anti-Semitic Nazi

To keep it short and simple- What if the Nazi Party (From the very beginning) had no anti-Semitic views? What if Hitler never despised or even disliked Jews?

Challenge: Make a TL for Nazi Germany in the 1930s and the 1940s.
 
POD: Hitler gets saved and befriended by a Jewish soldier during the Great War. He starts to see Jews in a better light.
Dunno where to go from there.
 
ooh, better idea.
POD: The jews get a homeland prior to the Great War. Hitler doesn't see the extremely small jewish population in Germany as much of a threat.
 
ooh, better idea.
POD: The jews get a homeland prior to the Great War. Hitler doesn't see the extremely small jewish population in Germany as much of a threat.
The German Jews were quite happy in Germany before the Nazis, though.
Zionism only took off on the scale it did after it became apparent that the Jews weren't safe even in Western Europe.
 
The "early Zion" idea just doesn't work. This actually implies a much earlier PoD and the butterflies make interbellum Germany (and thus Nazis) as we know it very unlikely. And of course Hitler's anti-semitism wasn't just political calculation, so it wouldn't work anyway.

But assuming minimal butterflies, we still have Hitler as leader of a Nazi party who have fascist social and economic policies and want to tear up Versailles and hate Slavs and communism, but aren't officially or widely anti-semitic. They might be pro- or antu-Zionist, perhaps not having much against Jews but preferring they leave, or perhaps wanting them to stay and become fully German.

Well, butterflies of that... I can't name names, and there are probably names who would prefer to leave Nazi Germany even if it was a vanilla dictatorship, but Germany might have less brain drain. Also, Germany got money from plundering the possesions of Jews who wanted to leave the country, but I don't think this was a huge source of income and will probably be offset by the lack of boycotts and so on.

Germany will likely get a better international reputation, and will add "Jew-hating" to its list of anti-Polish slurs. If it's anti-Zionist, it probably includes Poland's Jews under "opressed Germans".

No Holocaust, obviously.

Assuming minimal butterflies again, let's have war in September 1939. The lack of brain drain and time and resources being wasted on attrocities are not going to change the outcome of the war by themselves, and Germany will presumably still act barbarically to the inhabitants of eastern Europe.

End result: more Jews, and more in Germany. I'm not sure how many in Israel. Nazi Germany's reputation goes down to Imperial Japan level: anyone conducting a serious study of their methods will be appalled, but they're not going to be cartoon villains or the definition of evil in popular culture.
 

General Zod

Banned
Assuming minimal butterflies again, let's have war in September 1939. The lack of brain drain and time and resources being wasted on attrocities are not going to change the outcome of the war by themselves, and Germany will presumably still act barbarically to the inhabitants of eastern Europe.

End result: more Jews, and more in Germany. I'm not sure how many in Israel. Nazi Germany's reputation goes down to Imperial Japan level: anyone conducting a serious study of their methods will be appalled, but they're not going to be cartoon villains or the definition of evil in popular culture.

Attention: no antisemitism means Nazi Germany keeps the bulk of its Jew scientists (only a very few fled because they were actively anti-fascist, the vast majority did because they were racially persecuted). This massively delays the nuclear projects of the Allies, and massively advances the German one. Germany still does not have the same industrial potential as the USA, but if it does not waste so many resources on the Holocaust, a German nuke in 1944-45, with the Allies getting none up to 1948-49 (and the Soviets up to mid 1953-54), is not out of the question.
 

Valdemar II

Banned
It means very little except that Germany doesn't waste the resources on the Holocaust and get a few hundred thousand extra troops.
 

altamiro

Banned
It means very little except that Germany doesn't waste the resources on the Holocaust and get a few hundred thousand extra troops.

Valdemar, a significant part of the Manhattan Project scientific staff was of German/Jewish origin - so even if their brainpower is not used to full extent in Nazi Germany (and who says it isn´t?) the nukes in US hands are greatly delayed, easily by 2-3 years.
OTOH the monstrous organisational chaos Nazis made out of the armament industry means that there will be half a dozen smallish nuclear projects instead of one larger, so there won´t be a German nuke soon, either - even if the scientists remain in Germany and put their best effort into nuke development.
In the end the war might take a few months longer, is still finished by conventional means only, and Einstein & Co will probably share the fate of von Braun.
 

Valdemar II

Banned
I'm going to say this politely, it don't matter, the Manhattan project was a succes because of the amount of resources thrown at it, not because of any individs, they would just have used some native scientist instead, and the project had maybe been finished a month to a half year later. Any country with enough money, knowledge of physic and some people with the necessary education could have created the bomb. A few extra scientist from Germany didn't change a big deal.
 
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