WI: Hitler goes ahead with Op. Felix aka Attack of Gibraltar?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Felix

Operation Felix was the proposed German seizure of Gibraltar during World War II that didn't happen because of Franco's refusal to cooperate with Hitler and his extravagant terms in favor of Spain's involvement.

Quote from Wikipedia article:

"On 5 December 1940, Hitler met with the German High Command and decided to request permission from Franco for German troops to cross the Spanish border on 10 January 1941. It was planned that General Jodl would go to Spain to make preparations for the attack on Gibraltar as soon as Canaris had obtained Franco's agreement. Canaris accordingly met with Franco on 7 December and put to Franco the need for Spain's immediate entry into the war. Franco responded that Spain was simply not capable of supporting the German army, due to shortages of food and the crippled infrastructure and nature of the country still recovering from its recent civil war. He also expressed his fear that German seizure of Gibraltar would lead to the loss of the Canary Islands and Spain's other overseas possessions by a British counter-invasion.
On receiving Canaris' report, Hitler decided that Operation Felix should be cancelled. His disappointment was reflected in a later letter to Mussolini in which he said, "I fear that Franco is committing here the greatest mistake of his life".[8]
In the opening weeks of 1941, unsuccessful efforts were made by both ambassadors in Berlin and Rome to encourage the Spanish government to change their stance. Franco answered negatively to another request from Hitler to join the war, received on 6 February, using as a pretext the precarious state of Spain's economy and army due to its brutal civil war. Joachim von Ribbentrop, Germany's Foreign Minister, told Hitler that, in his opinion, "Franco has no intention of ever joining the war."
In February 1941, the OKW advised the naval high command that Operation Felix was out of the question for the time being, since the troops earmarked for it would soon be needed elsewhere." (Soviet Union)

The premise is what if Hitler had decided to go ahead with it without Franco's permission?

What effect would it have on the German war against the British? The Mediterranean? Africa? The war in general? Would it be a success for the Nazis or would it have little impact?
 
How would it go without Franco's support? I mean, that kind of troops can't exactlly be moved around their territory without Spanish noticing.
 
Germany gets bogged down in a massive guerrilla war with Spanish forces and fails to take Gibraltar. They have to delay Barbarossa even further and the war probably ends much sooner.
 

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Germany gets bogged down in a massive guerrilla war with Spanish forces and fails to take Gibraltar. They have to delay Barbarossa even further and the war probably ends much sooner.

IIRC Franco pretty much expected to let them pass because he couldn't resist and protest to both the Germans and British, while letting the SOE in. He would claim non-belligerency. This of course would mean that the Germans aren't then getting sold food and raw materials from Spanish mines, which will hurt.
 

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IIRC Franco pretty much expected to let them pass because he couldn't resist and protest to both the Germans and British, while letting the SOE in. He would claim non-belligerency. This of course would mean that the Germans aren't then getting sold food and raw materials from Spanish mines, which will hurt.

And they aren't getting the raw materials that were transhipped through 'neutral' Spain.
 
I suspect that there would be friction given that many in Spain were only a few short years earlier opposing the very type of Regime that the Nazi's represented.

Also what's in it for Spain?

Very little.
 
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Wasn't Spain having difficulty with food supplies still, after the civil war, at this point, and weren't the Spanish getting grain supplies from the USA in exchange for basically being neutral?
If that was the case, then if at this point the Spanish seem to be allowing the Germans to use their country for military operations (rather than vigorously resisting them), presumably the US grain supply gets cut and the Spanish are in danger of starving, unless Herr Hitler and his National Socialists can make up the shortfall.
 
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Wasn't Spain having difficulty with food supplies still, after the civil war, at this point, and weren't the Spanish getting grain supplies from the USA in exchange for basically being neutral?
If that was the case, then if at this point the Spanish seem to be allowing the Germans to use their country for military operations (rather than vigorously resisting them), presumably the US grain supply gets cut and the Spanish are in danger of starving, unless Herr Hitler and his National Socialists can make up the shortfall.

Meaning Germany is stuck with a desperately poor ally that it has to help feed and defend.
 
It might be interesting if seeing that he can't go in by land, he tries to take it by sea.

And yes I know it has less of a chance of success then that damn sea mammal but I could see some idiot in the German high command insisting that it can be done and Hitler wasting the resources on it. Especially if they send a dozen guys from a U-boat to blow up a dock in the middle of the night and consider that proof of concept. :p
 
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