What if KMT China tried to make Vietnam & Laos as its "independent" client states after WW2 instead of its OTL transactional, play all sides policy?

What if KMT China tried to establish Vietnam & Laos as its "independent" client states instead of its OTL transactional, play all sides policy?

1st lets review what China did. The Chinese, after VJ Day, were assigned to take surrender of Japanese forces in occupied Indochina, north of the 16th parallel only, so to just a bit south of Da Nang. Britain was responsible for disarming and repatriating Japanese forces in Indochina to the south.

The Chinese forces, commanded by Chinese Yunnan provincial warlord General Lu Han, generally acquiesced in the local Viet Minh movement's assertion of governmental power over the Vietnamese (this was a contrast with the British, who did not in their zone). The Viet Minh was controlled by Ho Chi Minh and others who were members of a "Marxist Study Group". They had formally abolished the Indochinese Communist Party. The Chinese made further requests from time to time for the Viet Minh to broaden their front further to add more Vietnamese exile politicians with Chinese contacts.

Chinese forces "lived off the land" and looted from the populace. In one pragmatic arrangement, the Viet Minh arranged a collection of citizens' gold and silver to exchange with the occupation commanders' in return for possession of the surrendered Japanese arms and ammunition stocks.

While most Japanese repatriated, some chose to serve with the Viet Minh.

At the same the Chinese occupation force coexisted and bartered with the Viet Minh, Chinese Nationalist diplomats were negotiating with France about permitting the return of French troops and administrators to northern Indochina (the Viet Minh, including Ho Chi Minh, were having their own parallel track negotiations with the French on the same subject at the time). The French and Chinese reached an agreement where the Chinese welcomed incoming returning French forces as they departed, in return for French liquidation of their territorial concessions in China itself, especially including the Guangzhouwan/Ft. Bayard enclave.

It all made a certain amount of sense given each actor's priorities, including the Chinese, which was their own sovereignty and their own civil war.

However, what if the Chinese had a more assertive, activist, positive policy in Indochina, probably shaped by directives from Chiang Kai-shek? Possibly Chiang is emboldened to try a more positive policy because the postwar truce before the outbreak of full civil war in China lasts longer.

In any case, the more positive Chinese agenda is shaped by the twin goals of anticommunism and anti-colonialism. Chinese occupation forces in Vietnam are ordered to undermine the Viet Minh, known to be controlled at roots by Communists, and replace it with a non-Communist alternative. In pursuing this the Chinese use whatever combination of force and trickery needed, including disingenuous negotiations and parleys, to arrange assassination of Ho Chi Minh and top colleagues, In his place they support alternative Vietnamese Nationalist leadership. Possibly from the VNQDD, the Vietnamese ideological equivalent of the KMT, but I confess I have never seen the actual names of the party leaders from this time identified. Possibly someone from other parties, the Dong Minh Hoi, or the Dai Viet, or possibly even a prominent non-partisan individual like Ngo Dinh Diem. In Laos, they support the monarch and civilian politicians. Having voiced support for a political regime, they support this regime's announcement of its independence from France, and opposition to France's return to either Vietnam or Laos.

France will be livid at this. Angry at China. Indirectly angry at the USA. But what will it do about it directly, and what will expect the USA to do about it. Note that France can still wedge itself back into the region via the British occupied south. Note also that Chinese forces can afford to remain in Vietnam and Laos in strength into 1947, as the demands of the Chinese Civil War grow.

What happens from here?
 
The problem is, you need a different situation altogether. Regardless, they did try OTL.
Chiang could not secure such powerful ambitions in 1943, with France in exile and the China Lobby at its most powerful. By Japan's surrender, Ichi-Go and the constant asks have destroyed Chiang's status, his main supporter Roosevelt is dead and the early signs of the Cold War are bringing France and the USA to a new understanding.
Had Chiang tried to install a supportive leadership, the Viet Cong would have beaten them even more thoroughly than they did the French, and then the final showdown with the CCP would have taken all of the regime's support anyways.
 
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What will this mean for Cambodia and Thailand?
Nothing about it stops French reoccupation of Cambodia, since it was the British who came in to disarm the Japanese there, and they cooperated with French return to the part of Indochina they occupied, south of the 16th parallel.

The effect on Thailand would be to put Chinese Nationalist and Thailand influence adjacent to each other, via Laos. *If* ultimately, a Viet Minh and PRC campaign together drove ChiNats and Vietnamese and Lao clients of theirs out of Vietnam and Laos, they, or some of them, might end up retreating inland and over the Mekong and into Thailand instead of offshore and to Taiwan, or south of the 16th parallel and into the French zone.

Had Chiang tried to install a supportive leadership, the Viet Cong would have beaten them even more thoroughly than they did the French
Even if the Viet Minh (more time-appropriate for the 1940s than Viet Cong) beat the Chinese Nationalists out of Vietnam [although by what particular time in terms of month & year is a question], would they also successfully kick the Chinese Nationalists out of Laos?

Divide and conquer (partition it with the amaricans)
Given this set-up, I wonder what specific events or scenarios, around what particular times, in years or decades, might pull in Americans to directly participate.
 
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