The Greek Empire

I like this timeline , especially how we get a war with carthage and how rome doesn't become a super power, really like to see what will happen with Hispania and whether the macedonian can take Britain or whether it will become a part of carthage.:D
 
New Update

I'm making a new update from 225 b.C. to 200 b.C. . Please, if you are liking it, or disliking, make a comment, because I'm starting to get tired to write to anyone.


PART 4- THE INCOMPETENT EMPERORS:

“During this period, in 25 years, 4 Basileus would pass through the throne of Macedon. Some conquests would be made, truly, but nothing compared to the Three Great Ones that had the throne before them...”
(Kert, Historia Makedoni)

225 b.C.: The city of Rome riots against Basileus Alypios. He sends 40.000 soldiers to pacify the area. They succeed, and then, the leader of the rebellion, ex-consul Titus Torquatus, is executed by hanging.
Eratosthenes, in Athens, develops the armillary sphere.

224 b.C.: Ptolemy II Euergetes of Khanaan dies (possibly poisoned), and his son, Ptolemy III Philopator, gains the throne. Then it was everything that Philip II of the Seleucid Kingdom wanted: he attacks Khanaan and conquers it all before the winter.
The war between the vassals didn’t matter for Alypios, since he was having another problem: Brinzakeis Athínatos (or Brinzakeis “Charontios”-> “of Charon”) was claiming the throne in public, and every month more areopagians were favoring him.
Ptolemy III do like his grandfather and escapes with everything from Tyre- including the library, soon before the arrival of the soldiers of Philip.
They end up in Cyprus, where Alypios, to protect them, put Ptolemy III as sub-king of Cyprus. The library, now moved for its new ground, for a very long time, is called The Library of Amasus.

Dasaratha, Mauryan Emperor, dies, and Samprati becomes the new ruler. He would better the relations between the Maurya Empire and Bactria.

223 b.C.: The armies of Philip II conquers Nabatea and Sinai, captures the locals and send them as slaves to Macedon, probably due to the annoying of Alypios about the war.
The city of Petra is destroyed by the armies of Philip.
First mentions of Brinzakeis as Brinzakeis I Megas, or “the Great”.


221 b.C.: Brinzakeis Athínatos becomes sub-king of Italy, due to areopagian pressure onto Alypios. Hannibal succeeds his brother Hasdrubal in command of Spain, and he starts to conquer some portions of the peninsula.
Unification of China by the State of Qin, which starts the dynatsty of Qin.

220-215 b.C.: Philip conquers Arabia to the Seleucid Kingdom. His area of influence reaches Saba, but the effective control went only ‘till Yanbu. Seleucid merchants make most of the trades with Ceylon and China. In the border with the Persian Empire, Philip also made an expedition to conquer nearby areas, with effective presence ‘till Qatar, and influence ‘till the western Strait of Hormuz.

220 b.C.: Brinzakeis Athínatos is crowned as Archon of the Army. In this year, philiosopher Charon becomes an Areopagian.

219 b.C.: 70% of the Areopagus is now pro-Brinzakeis. Charon tells his idea of plot to the rest of the senators. Alypios applies the First Brinzakean Law, about plotting, to Charon, and the philosopher is sentenced to death.
Before the sentence is applied, the Basileus suffers an attack, and Brinzakeis, the Son, crowns himself as Brinzakeis II of Macedon, Epirus, Rome, etc.
Brinzakeis ends with the position of Archon of the Army, giving the title directly to the basileus, “the only leader of the army”.
Alypios then exiles himself to Hyperborea (OTL southern Poland), together with 4.000 soldiers loyal to him. In there, they conquer a small dacian town and Alypios crowns himself as Archon of Getae. Than, the civilizatory process starts in a small area near to Krakow, where, in the next 20 years, the Kingdom of Getae would appear.
Emperor Qin Shi Huang of China orders his generals to conquer Guangdong and Guangxi to China. Antiochus Callinocus I of Bactria dies, and he is succeeded by his son, Alexander I.

218 b.C.: OTL, Second Punic War.
Less than a year after the plot, most areopagians starts to disagree with Brinzakeis II. Than, he applies a changed Brinzakean Law to make all Areopagus to agree with him, or they would be executed. 70 of the 200 are sentenced to death, 60 murdered, 10 escaped to Hyperborea to live in the village ruled by Alypios. Hiero of Sicily is executed.
Hannibal expands to south of Asturias the area of carthaginian control.

217 b.C.: Charon dies, and, before it, he pass “all” his knowledge to the Basileus. A very large and expensive funeral is made, bigger than of Brinzakeis the Great.
Brinzakeis establishes the Royal Tax, a very expensive protecionist tax to any foreign product into Macedon, Protests appear in Carthage and Seleucia.
Philip II of the Seleucid Kingdom starts to communicate with Alypios, offering him asylus. He rejects, saying that civilize Getae is his duty.
Even though, Philip starts to make a plot able to return the power to Alypios, with possible good results to the Seleucids.

216 b.C.: The Trade Pact is created between Carthage and the Seleucids to guarantee free trade. Brinzakeis II takes this as an offense, but do nothing, except for raising more taxes.

215 b.C.: Samprati of the Maurya Empire dies, with Salisuka taking his place as king, Brinzakeis II refuses the carthaginian and seleucid merchants into macedonian ports. Philip and Hannibal accept this as an act of war. Even pressed up by both, Alypios stays quiet in his small kingdom.

213 b.C.: The Emperor of China orders all the confucian writings to be destroyed. Due to the small trade established via Bactria, a part of the confucian books end up in the library in Cyprus.

215-211 b.C.: The Trade War. During this time, Brinzakeis send all his soldiers, good and not good enough to do the job, to both Carthage and the Seleucid Kingdom.
The mixed army is used everywhere freely, from Tanger to Alexandria Charax.
The 2nd Siege of Carthage, the largest battle, took less than two days, with huge macedonian victory, and Hannibal losing control of the city, and, consequently, of North Aftica.
In the east, things were easier, wirh most phalanxes debanding after fighting the nomad camels of the mixed army of Macedon. Philip II, before the armies reached the Euphrates, escaped quickly to Euxina, and later, reached Getae. After the fall of the capital, Carthago Nova becomes the capital of the Carthaginian Republic.
In 4 years, after the death of +-70.000 soldiers for each side, Brinzakeis II is murdered while sleeping and an old man, Areopagian Alexander, is selected to be Basileus, as Alexander V. Peace is made with Carthage, at the cost of the north african coast and vassalisation.
The Seleucid Kingdom is annexed, albeit of the lost of the area of now the Kingdom of Nabatea and of coastal western arabia. The area beyond the beginning of River Euphrates is given to Euxina, for their loyalty.

210 b.C.: Qin er Shi rises to the throne of China, and Arsaces, to the throne of Parthia, as Arsaces II. Alexander V does his only important act during his reign this year, The Act of Elections, that says the following as most important:
“When the Basileus doesn’t call any heir, the Areopagus is responsible for the throne;
“If the Basileus is bad for Macedon, the Areopagus can take him out of the power, and put his heir in his position”
This act would show the control that the Areopagus have over Alexander.
Archimedes, inventor and rector of the Great Academy of Athens, dies this year. Dozens, if not hundreds, of wrrtings of him are found in his room, some showing how to make giant ships capable to carry small villages (OOC: some even similar to the chinese treasure ships of Zheng He).

209 b.C.: The Seleucid Revolt. Pressed by Philip II’s heir, Seleucus, the area of Mesopotamia and coastal Arabia is freed from Macedonian control.
Mesopotamia would be conquered in the end of that year, with Seleucia burnt to the ground by the armies lead by the old general Kefiros.
When the armies advance into arabia, Kefiros makes a mistake and his army end up in the desert. A huge part, including the veteran, would die of exaustion.
Coastal Eastern Arabia now is renamed as Seleucid Kingdom, lead by Seleucus III. He invites his father to return, but the land in the way is too dangerous, filled with macedonian soldiers, and Philip decides to stay in Getae. Late in that year, he would die.

207 b.C.: Ziying becomes emperor of China after his uncle was murdered. Alexander V dies, and the sub-king of Thrace (and descendent of Lysimachus), Brinzakeis (named because of the great). He rises as Brinzakeis III Keuranos, “the Thunder”.
Mago Barca becomes ruler of Hispania, and he adds the area of OTL Galicia and OTL Asturias to Carthago Novan rule.
Flavius the Roman publishes his greatest history treatise, Empire, which talks about all the emperors ‘till Brinzakeis III, inspired by his tutor Polybius. Eleusa, queen of Euxina, dies. Her son, Mithridates, together with his wife, a seleucid named Cassandra.

206 b.C.: Brinzakeis III, with areopagian support, down the taxes, making a new relactively free trade again. Products from China and India start to appear in the Great Agora of Athens.

205 b.C..: Brinzakeis buys from Mago Barca the Balearic Islands.

205-204 b.C.: Parthian-Persian war. Cyrus III of Persia reclaims the area of Parthia and sends 42.000 soldiers into there. Arsaces II of Parthia is get unprevined, and half of Parthia is conquered by Persia. The other half would be protected by Bactria and annexed. Arsaces is exiled into Bactria.

204 b.C.: Alypios, after conquering some areas around, establishes the Kingdom of Getae with him as Archon of the Getti. He puts as his heir Philip, bastard son of the ex-seleucid king, even he being only 11 years old this year.

203 b.C.: Polybius, historian, dies. To a roman genral, Publius Scipio, is given the charge of conquering some areas around Hispania. He conquers only the mediterranean coastal zone.

202 b.C.: Liu Bang declares himself Emperor of China, beginning the Han Dynasty.
Salisuka, of the Maurya Empire, dies, replaced by Devavarman.
Cyrus III of Persia dies too, and his son, Darius, takes power as Shahanshah Darius IV.
OTL, Second Punic War ends, with Carthaginian defeat.

201 b.C.: Brinzakeis III chooses a young corinthian areopagian, Ptolemy, to be his heir, for his respect in the areopagus by that time, and “intelligence and charisma”, although today is sure that Ptolemy Kórinthianos was lover of the Basileus.
OTL, land would be for the first time distributed to the army in Rome, but here, it would take two hundred years for the practice to begin.

200 b.C.: The city of Tiwanaku is founded near lake Titicaca in Peru. Erasthotenes makes the first measure of the distance between the Earth and the Sun. In China, is developed the crossbow.
During august, misteriously, the Basileus is found dead in his room, apparently poisoned. Quickly, Ptolemy ends up with any doubts about the misterious death of Brinzakeis and crowns himself as Basileus Alexander VI, King of Macedon, Greece, Epirus, Rome, Egypt, Carthage, Dacia, Mauretania, Anatolia, Galatea, Cyrenaica, Khanaan, Mesopotamia, Syria, Ilyria and Kersonesos. The name change is not known that time, but its reasons would appear quickly.
His reign would be the worst in the history of Macedon ‘till that time.


OBS: Look at "Stories from "The Greek Empire"", to see the new one, Getae.
 
Map

Yesterday, I've forgotten the map. Here is the map of the Middle East:

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I like the way this story is progressing , my only curiosity is after the age of incompotent emperors will we get someone who will restore glory and increase the size of the empire even more like pehaps grasping all of europe as we know it except for Scandanavia and perhaps establish Hellenic England:D
 
It delays but it doesn't fails

Update (It's only 12 years, but I'm having some difficulties to brainstorm about it. I'll try to do the next one, the last part of "The God Emperor.." early, but no guarantees):

PART 5- THE GOD-EMPEROR OF CORINTH:
5.1- The Rise:

The dates will now be put in AB (After Basileus), as it would be TTL. Remember: Christian Year + 280= Year After Basileus (BC is negative).

“I am divine. I was born from a mortal, but my father is the great Zeus. I am Him in Earth, like were Achilles and Alexander. I am Ptolemy Alexander VI, the only living god, if I’m not really the only god after all.”

(Alexandros Theos in his crowning as God-Emperor)

80 AB: In the same year he is crowned, Alexander VI ends up with the Brinzakean Law putting in its place the Alexandrinean Law, that forbids the areopagians to express their opinions against the Basileus and his policies. The popularity of Alexander isn’t small, although: a large part of the people likes him (maybe because he thinks that everybody is under him).

81 AB: The Purge. A large part of the Areopagus (circa 70%) is killed by the orders of Alexander. In this purge, 60% of the killed were against him, 30% indiferent, and 10% the Basileus simply didn’t like. 20% of them try to escape to somewhere else, mostly to the growing Kingdom of Getae. 5% were the ones who were completely loyal to the Basileus, and the other 5% were the ones who were thinked as unimportant, among them the young Ptolemy from Neapolis.

84 AB: Revolts eclode in Egypt, Khanaan and Syria. The sub-kings of those nations are executed, together with most rebels captured. Southern Egypt became independent, but was invaded by Meroe. When the troops (+-50.000 men, mostly camel archers and 10 elephants) arrived, they entered in the area of the Meronite kingdom and conquered it. The original rebels were crushed and executed by impalement in Elephantine. After that, the army moved north, and went to Khanaan, where they killed a large number of the rebels (mostly jewish. A story tells about the jews been killed in the temple stairs by the phalanxes, although it, historically, wasn’t like that.).

85 AB: Chang’an, China, becomes the largest city in the world, with Athens soon behind it. The King of Buyeo, Haemosu Dangun, dies and is succeeded by Mosuri Dangun, and in the Maurya Empire, Devavarman dies and is replaced by Satadhanvan. The Basileus goes on a trip into the conquered regions, where he enters in contact with the egyptian faith and judaism. When he returns to Athens, in the end of that year, he would make a speak and consider himself as the only living god, son of Zeus¹.

86 AB: Eratosthenes, 2nd rector of the Great Academy, dies. Alexander VI gives himself the title of rector and the Great Academy now becomes a center to form priests of the “God”. He then moves the capital of the empire to Corinth, where he would be free of “temporal” influences. The city, pressed on by forced conversions, accepts the new faith almost completely.
In the end of that year, the city is burnt, to be rebuild again in the views of the Basileus (“Alexandria Thea”, as it is dubbed by Flavius).

87 AB: The Purge. A large part of the Areopagus (circa 70%) is ordered by Alexander to be killed, because they “weren’t obeying the divine laws”. In this purge, 60% of them were killed, and 40% escaped. 8% of them try to escape to the Kingdom of Getae, where they are recieved by Alypios, and the other 32% manage to escape to Byzantium, following the ideas of a young (and considered by some the most honest) areopagian called Ptolemy.
After it, the Areopagus is closed and the building, burnt to the ground. The other 30% were forced to adore Alexander VI directly in Corinth and most of them accepted the faith.
With those events, the king and queen of Euxina abdicate of their thrones, giving it to their daughter, Eleusa, married with a pontic nobleman, Polemon.
Although they were against Alexander VI of Macedon, the Basileus did nothing when Euxina broke out with the idea of being vassal.
This year also begins the Athenian Exodus, where many people moved to Piraeus, others to Larissa and Thessaloniki, and the “faithful”, to Corinth. From the original 700.000, only 460.000 would still live in the city by 100 AB.
The city of Byzantium is considered safe by the Areopagians because from there it was easy to escape to anywhere, from Getae to Euxina and the barbaric lands of Scythia.

88 AB: The Temple of Zeus is destroyed (earlier than OTL) by Corinthian Zealots following the orders of Alexander VI, for showing “images of his father”.

90 AB: With the Act of God, Ptolemy Alexander orders that everyone in the empire shall follow him in his faith. Those who didn’t should pay a large tax (OOC: similar to the Dhmmi in the arab countries, but here, a large part of the population would pretend to be following the Alexandrism, while they actually wouldn’t).
In Persia, Cyrus IV dies and is succeeded by Darius IV.

91 AB: A Separatist Areopagus is formed in the small town of Byzantium, and the God-Emperor the city to be destroyed and the Areopagians, to be impaled. Following it, Eleusa of Euxina says that they are loyal to the Areopagian government in Byzantium, together with the area of Pergamon and their sub-king, Hellenos.
Then the Siege of Byzantium happens, in April of 91. 600 ships and 30.000 of Alexander fight against the small fleet of Euxina (200 ships), and with an army of 25.000 thracian falxmen.
The commander of the Corinthian army, Alexander (OOC: the new name of many converts to alexandrism, religion of Alexander VI, including this guy) did a stupid movement when he put all his ships inside the small Bosphorus. Byzantium, thinking that the battle was easy to win. But then the pergamid ships came from the south, and the euxinean from the north, holding the Corinthians. From both sides of the Strait of Bosphorus, flaming arrows and heat rays are fired. It would be considered one of the greatest victories in the career of Ptolemy.
Later this year, a part of macedon is already loyal to Byzantium. Macedon itself ceases to exist; now, there are two belligerant empires: The Byzantine Empire, composed of Thrace and Pergamon and loyal to the Areopagus, and The Corinthian Empire, officialy alexandrine (OOC: religion of Alexander VI), loyal to the God-Emperor.

92 AB: In the middle of the macedonian civil war, the possible Basileus that could be called to the throne of Macedon, Alypios, dies of pneumonia, and Philip is his new sucessor. A new Basileus is a priority for the Byzantine Areopagus, but no name is yet mentioned. The provinces of Bithynia, Kersonesos, Evros and Northern Anatolia join the Byzantine Areopagian Empire, with their sub-kings (respectivly: Ariobarzanes, Segovax, Socrates and Gelon) officialy breaking up with the “God-Emperor”.

¹”The childhood of Ptolemy Alexandros VI Kórinthios Theos wasn’t a normal one. He was sexually abused by his father, Hefestion, once, and, combined with the mental ilness he had, schizophrenia, would cause a really affected mind, with godlike illusions.” (Fergos, “The Basileios and their diseases”-pg. 41).



Map of the Med in 92 AB (If someone can get me a smaller map, I would be thankful:)):

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It does look interesting I'd really to see this stretch out to the point of either a 19th Century Byzantium Republic or Uber Greece.:D
 
I've had a terrible flu during the last week and a half, almost a pneumonia, so I couldn't enter internet too much, and I had to stop updating. But now, back to the activities.
Analytical Engine said:
Yikes... :eek:

Uber-Macedon... :cool:
It will be uber 'till the eirini hellas period, but the TL isn't definitly Alexwank.

Faeelin said:
Hmm. You'd think that you'd see native led uprisings in the east, instead of Macedonian ones.
There will be, and will appear in the next update.
But, anyway, almost all rebellions will be pro-byzantium, due to all the benefits that an unified empire gave to them, and for all that byzantium will offer. Wait and see how even Rome can be controlled....

EmperorSimeon said:
It does look interesting I'd really to see this stretch out to the point of either a 19th Century Byzantium Republic or Uber Greece.:D
Why don't you try it? For me, it is almost impossible to make one TL, so imagine 2...:(

Any comments and questions are still very important and wanted here.
 
This is the last period of the rule of the God-Emperor. I have two stories yet to be published, and they will be as soon as I can.

PART 5- THE GOD-EMPEROR OF CORINTH:
5.2-The Empire of the God:

93 AB: Satadhanvan of the Maurya Empire dies, and so do Mago Barca. The byzantines start to make incursions into Corinthian lands, with almost no difficulties in some areas, like Anatolia west to the Saleph river.

94 AB: The Roman Revolt. With some difficulty, the romans take control of the area around the Latium, and the Areopagus offer them almost complete freedom if they can support the revolt against Alexander VI in the west. The roman area become an important part of the Byzantine Empire.
Ptolemy Neapolitanos, leading the army, conquers Thessaloniki. He becomes the commander of the Byzantine army by this year.
Athens, forgotten by everybody, make a rebellion and become a self-ruled city-state, pro-Byzantium. Alexander does nothing, prefering to continue with his orgies in his palace.
The rebellion of Athens would only get the already complicated situation of Alexander worse, because it would make the Byzantines to have an ally near the enemy capital.

95 AB:OTL, Brhadrata of the Maurya Empire is murdered. Here, he manages to escape to Bactria, where Archon Alexander I would protect him. The Sunga Empire is created in India. Western India, now empty, is conquered by Bactria.
The mesopotamians rebel against Corinth and make an empire of their own, lead by Arantes, but Alexander VI manages to reconquer the area.

96 AB: Plautus dies.
The 2nd Battle of Thermopylae. 30.000 Byzantines find 15.000 corinthians in Thermopylae. With many casualities, the corinthians manage to win the battle, and put the byzantines backwards.

97 AB: OTL, Hannibal dies. Here, he still leads Carthage, but he is dying from smallpox, and, in the same time, Carthage is in contact with some greek legends, like Atlantis.
In his 50’s, he wants to do a last important thing in his life and die well, so he gives the control of Carthage to his son, Hasdrubal Barca, and sail west to his “exile” with some men, women and prisioneers. For hundreds of years, no news of them would be heard.
Alexander VI send a large army to Italy trying to stop the roman rebels. Almost one year later, the romans surrender, and the soldiers return to greece.
But, at the same time, the Byzantines recover from Thermopylae and advance through anatolia. The areas of Mesopotamia, Cyprus, Cyrene, Libya, Phoenicia, Jordan, Cilicion and Egypt accept the authority of the areopagus after small battles, and with support of the almost rebelling peasants.

98 AB: 50.000 byzantine soldiers advance from anatolia to the islands. At the same time, the area of Carthagos (not to be confused with Carthage, in Spain) rebels, and the corinthian soldiers (+-70.000) are divided. Some stay in continental greece, and others go to the rebel areas.

99 AB: Carthagos is conquered and burnt after the rebellion, with many corinthian soldiers dead after the siege. The provinces of Crete, Rhodes, Cyclades, Euboea and Thessaly join the Byzantine Empire. Italy rebels again, but there aren’t manpower enough for the rebellion to be supressed. Soon after, the romans free Sardinia and Corsica, Massalia, the Baleares and Istria. Ilyria, in november, joins the Byzantine Empire.
In the end of the year, Alexander VI orders that all faithful soldiers (+-80.000 men) prepare to abandon their positions and return to defend the Holy City of Corinth.
In the beginning of it, a naval battle happens in Salamina, with Corinthian victory.

100 AB: Emperor Wen ascends to the throne of China.
In January 19th, happens The Great Battle of Corinth, that would decide the fate of Macedon. 34.000 men, loyal to the Areopagus of Byzantium, fought against +- 40.000 men (mostly peasants and zealots) were defending the city, with reinforcements coming from the rest of the Corinthian Empire.
The battle was tough for both sides, ‘cause both knew that victory was everything that mattered.
In the last day of the battle, after the breakup, the reinforcements of Corinth weren’t far from the city, actually in the coast of the Pelloponesus, 1 day away.
The God-Emperor Alexander Ptolemy left his palace, in his golden clothes, to fight with the general-areopagian Ptolemy Neapolitanos. With hard rain over them, a fierce battle was fought, with no armies daring to approach them. It lasted hours, but seemed to last forever.
But then the sun appeared in the sky, and shined over the diamond eyes of the Statue of Alexander, in the center of the city. The rays distracted the “god”, who made a fatal mistake. Ptolemy put his sword into Alexander’s stomach.
After the battle, areopagian Alypios was chosen by the areopagus to become the new Basileus of Macedon. The Eirini Hellas was a close reality now...

Map of the med., year 100:

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Alexander MMAS

I like the TL.:) It's good and exciting. How can Carthage survive in Spain without being taken over by Rep.Rome or Byzantine? I'm going to keep reading to find out what happens to the Empire without Macedon. P.S., where did you get your map?
 
Sorry about the lateness. I just am very busy and can't enter too often. But I'm doing a major review on the first 100 years, and will make an update as soon as my computer is fixed.

Alexander MMAS said:
I like the TL.:) It's good and exciting. How can Carthage survive in Spain without being taken over by Rep.Rome or Byzantine? I'm going to keep reading to find out what happens to the Empire without Macedon. P.S., where did you get your map?
Because Carthage is, anyway, a vassal of the greek empire, and the greeks really ain't caring about that part of europe-yet.
And now on the empire will become completely unified, with Alypios II, and even more with his successor.
All the maps, except those centered on the arabic peninsula, are from the Blank Map thread. :)
 
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