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1,000 vs. 1,000, 150 mounted troops each and gunpowder use relative to each respective army's tactics circa 1550.
Something to do with part time warriors with wooden armour and tinfoil swords against the mercenaries who burned Germany to the ground and dominated European warfare for half a century.Quite surprised at the lead the Landsknechts took.
Something to do with part time warriors with wooden armour and tinfoil swords against the mercenaries who burned Germany to the ground and dominated European warfare for half a century.
At this point pikes were the primary weapon of infantrymen in both Europe and Japan.Would the Europeans be using pikes at this point? Did the Japanese have anything equivalent? I'm afraid my knowledge of the period is influenced by Hollywood, rather than History.
Why a landsknecht of all things? I don't think they were very comparable to samurai, my impression is that they were mercenary footsoldiers, more like ashigaru if anything. Shouldn't a more prescient comparison be something like samurai vs demi-lancers, or reiters, something of that ilk? Basically, armored and mounted guys who are, if not actual nobility, at least a grade above the common soldiery.
3 lbs? 6lbs? Had they come up with Grape yet, or was is still just solid shot, or were they still using rocks?People often forget that the main weapon of the samurai was bow, which was used mainly on horseback, and spear. Sword was a weapon of last resort, when everything else failed, well take out your sword, and get in a few hits before they kill you. Their armor was at best lamellar, and really could not compare with the armour usually worn on European battlefields. And lastly we are talking about landsknecht mercenaries, the people who defeated Swiss mercenaries. Few samurai, and ashigaru peasant soldiers will not be able to seriously threaten, let alone defeat Landsknecht. Samurai, and katanas are overhyped. You want to see a proper sword? Look at Spanish steel or even Viking swords, that is nice and proper piece of metal.
If you havent realized it yet, I really hate overhyping something or someone.
Ahem, sorry about that...
About cannons, I am really not certain that Japan used Gunpowder artillery at all before openning up to the West in the 19th century. As for the European force, well, It is the middle of the 16th century, you could expect some minor artillery pieces mounted on trunions and limbers.
44 to 20, Landsknechts
People often forget that the main weapon of the samurai was bow, which was used mainly on horseback, and spear. Sword was a weapon of last resort, when everything else failed, well take out your sword, and get in a few hits before they kill you. Their armor was at best lamellar, and really could not compare with the armour usually worn on European battlefields.
And lastly we are talking about landsknecht mercenaries, the people who defeated Swiss mercenaries. Few samurai, and ashigaru peasant soldiers will not be able to seriously threaten, let alone defeat Landsknecht.
Samurai, and katanas are overhyped. You want to see a proper sword? Look at Spanish steel or even Viking swords, that is nice and proper piece of metal.
About cannons, I am really not certain that Japan used Gunpowder artillery at all before openning up to the West in the 19th century. As for the European force, well, It is the middle of the 16th century, you could expect some minor artillery pieces mounted on trunions and limbers.
3 lbs? 6lbs? Had they come up with Grape yet, or was is still just solid shot, or were they still using rocks?
3 lbs? 6lbs? Had they come up with Grape yet, or was is still just solid shot, or were they still using rocks?