In early 17th century, two eastward fluxes converge in space and time.:
1. In 1616-1644 the Manchu took over China
2. In 1580-1639 the Russians took over Siberia ( Northern Asia ), reaching the Pacific for good.
In fact exactly the same time when Russian moved East, the Manchu moved South.
There were http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian–Manchu_border_conflicts not only in the end of 17th century, BUT also during the Russian drang-nach-osten earlier at the begining of the century. Russian lost in general and failed to achieve great territorial expansion into China, due to the fact that the locals possessed firearms too and because of Russia was unable to project so much power so far east. The reasons for Russia's relative weakness could be sought perhaps in its demographic and overally weaker situation following the bitter reality of the beginning of 17th century.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_Troubles
Now lets imagine that Godunov-Sapieha ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Sapieha ) project for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Lithuanian–Muscovite_Commonwealth have succeeded.
The Union constitution prescribes that the Vasa and Romanov dynasties shall be united, issuing single ruler in the next generations belonging to both of them. The other important and sternly enforced point is that officially the 1054 AD schism between Catolics and Otrodox christians is deemed "healled" and as result religious tolerance is imposed effectivelly, via official denial of the differences.
In result Russia evades the OTL killing 1/3rd of its population famine and other deadly moments.
Thus in the next few decades the projections of power of Russia in the Far East are 4-5 times stronger. The demographic, economical and military power of PLM ( Polish-Lithuanian-Muskovy ) is several times stronger.
It is the time of the Great expansion of the European powers accross the oceans. Controling China is very desirable goal.
In 1616-1644 NOT the Manchu ( who are destroyed and their remnants adopted by the PLM war machine ) BUT PLM takes over China.
The PLM Romanov-Vasa Emperor ( Tsar of Russias, King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania ) takes the Dragon Throne and holds it for 300-400 years.
This Chinese dynasty is called Luoma ( Roman, from Rome, cause the West/Rome took over China and the family name of the "Roman" dynasty is Romanov ) ...
1. In 1616-1644 the Manchu took over China
2. In 1580-1639 the Russians took over Siberia ( Northern Asia ), reaching the Pacific for good.
In fact exactly the same time when Russian moved East, the Manchu moved South.
There were http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian–Manchu_border_conflicts not only in the end of 17th century, BUT also during the Russian drang-nach-osten earlier at the begining of the century. Russian lost in general and failed to achieve great territorial expansion into China, due to the fact that the locals possessed firearms too and because of Russia was unable to project so much power so far east. The reasons for Russia's relative weakness could be sought perhaps in its demographic and overally weaker situation following the bitter reality of the beginning of 17th century.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_Troubles
Now lets imagine that Godunov-Sapieha ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Sapieha ) project for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Lithuanian–Muscovite_Commonwealth have succeeded.
The Union constitution prescribes that the Vasa and Romanov dynasties shall be united, issuing single ruler in the next generations belonging to both of them. The other important and sternly enforced point is that officially the 1054 AD schism between Catolics and Otrodox christians is deemed "healled" and as result religious tolerance is imposed effectivelly, via official denial of the differences.
In result Russia evades the OTL killing 1/3rd of its population famine and other deadly moments.
Thus in the next few decades the projections of power of Russia in the Far East are 4-5 times stronger. The demographic, economical and military power of PLM ( Polish-Lithuanian-Muskovy ) is several times stronger.
It is the time of the Great expansion of the European powers accross the oceans. Controling China is very desirable goal.
In 1616-1644 NOT the Manchu ( who are destroyed and their remnants adopted by the PLM war machine ) BUT PLM takes over China.
The PLM Romanov-Vasa Emperor ( Tsar of Russias, King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania ) takes the Dragon Throne and holds it for 300-400 years.
This Chinese dynasty is called Luoma ( Roman, from Rome, cause the West/Rome took over China and the family name of the "Roman" dynasty is Romanov ) ...