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Story 0145 Battle of Narvik Part 3
April 10, 1940 Narvik 0417

The waterfront was on fire. Norwegian reinforcements had started to trickle in after sundown. Men would arrive and be shuffled to a safe house fifty meters behind the front line where tired, bloody and angry men who were now veterans briefed them on the dangers of house to house fighting with the well armed German mountain troopers. The defenders had been pushed back two more blocks but the line stabilized at midnight as the second battalion of the regiment arrived and the local militia had time to equip itself from the regimental depot located north of the city.

There was no will yet to counterattack.

The defenders knew the toll they had inflicted on the Germans as the defenders withdrew one house at a time. They knew the Germans could do the same to them. If anything, the Germans had more grenades and more importantly more automatic weapons than the rifle armed Norwegians so they would be even stronger in the defense. The four destroyers refueling and resupplying along the docks still had some ammunition left and they could be counted on to break up any large rush.

Five destroyers had glided into the fjord overnight. They were challenged and stopped by a Norwegian patrol boat that was not seen when the Germans sank Eidsvold. A pilot hopped aboard the lead ship, HMS Hardy and led them through a channel that he knew had been cleared. The burning waterfront highlighted the four German destroyers whose crews had been at action stations for over twenty seven hours straight and had seen three fifths of their command sink in the past day.

Hardy, Hotspur, Havock, Hunter and Hostile closed to decisive range as the German lookouts had their night vision blinded by the fires and the ships silhouetted by the infernos onshore. Hardy called for a torpedo launch over the radio. Within a minute thirty seven torpedoes were in the water, bearing in on their targets from a range of 2,900 yards. Full broadsides were fired rapidly within seconds of the torpedo launch being completed. Each destroyer engaged their opposite number with the last destroyer, Hostile, doubling up on Hunter’s target. The Germans were completely shocked. In the few minutes for the torpedoes to run, only two ships were able to fire at the flashes in the light. No hits were achieved even as 4.7 inch shells wrecked the upper works of the German large destroyers. The shellfire was overkill and incidental. All four ships were torpedoed. One was hit five times, the best off ship was hit twice.

The German mountain troopers were cut off and their heavy support was now sitting at the bottom of Narvik harbor.

Hotspur and Havock withdrew to screen the remaining three destroyers. Within an hour, a Norwegian shore party was able to get Hotspur’s attention and they sent a boat with a simple request. Would the British destroyers close to point blank range and shell the strong points the Germans had been setting up?

Forty minutes later, two destroyers began a steady rotation along the waterfront. Norwegian army officers pointed out the houses and strong points that would hold up attacks. Four or eight guns would send fire repeatedly and rapidly for a minute or two until the strong point was a charnel house of broken bleeding limbs and young boys crying for their mothers or lovers as they laid dying.

After an hour of this duty, two more destroyers took their place so that no ship would run critically low on ammunition.

By noon, Norwegian infantry had started to see white flags raise whenever a strong point was hit with the first two or three ranging shots. By nightfall, the port was firmly in Norwegian hands. Eleven hundred German prisoners sat on the docks. Five hundred would be loaded onto the British destroyers to be taken back to the United Kingdom while the rest were to be held in the basement of three surviving churches to avoid the cold of the night.
 
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This is an excellent AH timeline. Have you thought of writing a story only thread?
not yet, I will need to get it to a point where I can clean some things up but I need to wait a little bit before I can do a personal project like that.
 
Now Narvik and Bergen are still in Norwegian hands, and the German surface force has taken more of a hit with all of the ships at Narvik sunk, and most of the Bergen force sunk or severely damaged. The force attacking Oslo has taken serious hits. The elite German troops everywhere have taken a serious hit between those killed or captured at Bergen and Narvik, and greater losses at the Oslo airports and with the seaborne attack. The government has managed to escape Oslo intact, and I expect the King will soon broadcast to the nation clarifying the situation and denouncing Quisling. I hope the Norwegians begin demolitions on the Oslo waterfront, this will make life more difficult for the Germans when they finally manage to clear the defenses of the fjord - until they do that reinforcements and supplies for the paratroopers in Oslo are limited. It will be difficult for the Germans at the airports to expand their control, do things like seize government buildings and seize the docks in time to prevent some level of destruction.

A lot of the Luftwaffe's transport capacity has been lost, and every sortie will run the risk of an accident or enemy action, pilots will be over-taxed and tired. It will be some time until the Luftwaffe can use the Oslo airfields for combat operations as ground crews, ammo/bombs, and perhaps fuel need to be brought in which means sea transport as only minimal amounts can be brought in by air, and everything the transports bring in for the Luftwaffe means less for the ground troops which are more important now. Compared to OTL this means for the moment and a bit in the future, the range of the Luftwaffe to attack land forces in Norway or naval forces off the western coast of Norway is limited - it is extended a little bit by any airfields in Denmark, especially in Jutland, but it is less than OTL.

The British (and French) have a huge opportunity here. While getting back Oslo/southern Norway may not be in the cards, keeping northern Norway is very possible given the geography if the opportunity is grasped. Between the RN and RAF, AdA forces, the waters off the southern part of the west coast of Norway can be made a death zone for any German surface forces, and submarines with some air support can make the waters between Germany/Denmark and Norway contested. Even if all of Norway falls o the Germans eventually the cost to Germany will be much higher, and with more time the Allies can do things like wreck ports and railways the Germans need to do things like transport iron ore - sure they can be repaired, but this is yet anough stretch to the German industrial capacity over and above OTL.
 
Now Narvik and Bergen are still in Norwegian hands, and the German surface force has taken more of a hit with all of the ships at Narvik sunk, and most of the Bergen force sunk or severely damaged. The force attacking Oslo has taken serious hits. The elite German troops everywhere have taken a serious hit between those killed or captured at Bergen and Narvik, and greater losses at the Oslo airports and with the seaborne attack. The government has managed to escape Oslo intact, and I expect the King will soon broadcast to the nation clarifying the situation and denouncing Quisling. I hope the Norwegians begin demolitions on the Oslo waterfront, this will make life more difficult for the Germans when they finally manage to clear the defenses of the fjord - until they do that reinforcements and supplies for the paratroopers in Oslo are limited. It will be difficult for the Germans at the airports to expand their control, do things like seize government buildings and seize the docks in time to prevent some level of destruction.

A lot of the Luftwaffe's transport capacity has been lost, and every sortie will run the risk of an accident or enemy action, pilots will be over-taxed and tired. It will be some time until the Luftwaffe can use the Oslo airfields for combat operations as ground crews, ammo/bombs, and perhaps fuel need to be brought in which means sea transport as only minimal amounts can be brought in by air, and everything the transports bring in for the Luftwaffe means less for the ground troops which are more important now. Compared to OTL this means for the moment and a bit in the future, the range of the Luftwaffe to attack land forces in Norway or naval forces off the western coast of Norway is limited - it is extended a little bit by any airfields in Denmark, especially in Jutland, but it is less than OTL.

The British (and French) have a huge opportunity here. While getting back Oslo/southern Norway may not be in the cards, keeping northern Norway is very possible given the geography if the opportunity is grasped. Between the RN and RAF, AdA forces, the waters off the southern part of the west coast of Norway can be made a death zone for any German surface forces, and submarines with some air support can make the waters between Germany/Denmark and Norway contested. Even if all of Norway falls o the Germans eventually the cost to Germany will be much higher, and with more time the Allies can do things like wreck ports and railways the Germans need to do things like transport iron ore - sure they can be repaired, but this is yet anough stretch to the German industrial capacity over and above OTL.

Bergen was shot up pretty good by the Royal Navy but the port is in German hands... the rest of the analysis I fundamentally agree with. A strong supporting base in Narvik with the ability to deliberately stage troops south will help the Allies quite a bit. However before we get too far ahead of ourselves, the fundamental weakness of the Norwegian campaign is that it is a secondary campaign for both the Allies and the Germans. The war is lost if the Germans have units in Paris and London even if Oslo is free. That thinking will color everything.
 
The question is who gets to hold Bergen? If the Germans can't reinforce by sea can the Norwegians take it back? I agree neither the Germans nor the British/French can afford to put too much in to Norway, which is why - given the geography here and the losses the Germans have already taken, a static division of Norway is possible which means that, if and when, you are running convoys to Murmansk they get a much better run.

BTW IMHO the losses the paratroopers have taken here/will continue to take, while not as bad as Crete OTL, mat begin to put Hitler off on airborne assaults. Will this have any effect on the campaign to take France - maybe maybe not. (can you say Eben Emael?)
 
The question is who gets to hold Bergen? If the Germans can't reinforce by sea can the Norwegians take it back? I agree neither the Germans nor the British/French can afford to put too much in to Norway, which is why - given the geography here and the losses the Germans have already taken, a static division of Norway is possible which means that, if and when, you are running convoys to Murmansk they get a much better run.

BTW IMHO the losses the paratroopers have taken here/will continue to take, while not as bad as Crete OTL, mat begin to put Hitler off on airborne assaults. Will this have any effect on the campaign to take France - maybe maybe not. (can you say Eben Emael?)

The Eban Emal assault team was already sequestered. The Luftwaffe knew that air assaults would be costly and they knew that the Norwegians had some modern fighters so they committed sufficient ME-109 and ME-110 to quickly gain air supremacy. From the within the TL point of view, the Luftwaffe is fairly happy for Day 1 of the operation. They have their airfields in Jutland, they have their airfields at Oslo and Stavanger. They took some losses from fighters and more from ground fire but they were able to suppress the fire reasonably quickly. The new information is the Brits have a modern and effective carrier based fighter in the form of the Martlet that is at least good enough to disrupt unescorted raids --- who knows how it will deal with escorted raids?

As far as the Kreigsmarine -- the surprise at the Oslo narrows was disappointing and Narvik is turning into a clusterfuck. however 5 of the 6 major objectives were either seized or on the way to be seized. The Twins were able to distract the Royal Navy on a heavy ship hunt. Bergen is probably the biggest disappointment but they took the objective.
 
Pairs and pairs of pairs worked as a well honed team dividing the spirited Norwegian defenders up, breaking their support and then splashing the isolated tail end Charlies and the loners who attempted to fight as single combat warriors.

A butterfly: IOTL the Norwegian Hawks were mainly captured intact, and were sold on to Finland (along with some French aircraft) The Finns will need something else.
 
Story 0146

April 11, 1940 West of Stavanger


Gneisenau and Scharnhorst headed south. They had achieved their mission of drawing off heavy British units and then escaped an encounter with a British battleship. The lookouts swore they saw Rodney but the cryptographers thought their opponent was Renown. No matter, Scharnhorst had only weather damage. Gneisenau had been hit four times. Two were minor wounds, a single 15 inch shell scraped the forward director off and deposited into into the sea while a 4.5 inch shell was defeated by her belt. More serious damage was done by a fifteen inch shell that crippled Anton turret and a light shell that opened by Bruno turret’s rangefinder to the sea, flooding the turret whenever the waves crested the bow. It did not matter. Luftwaffe patrol planes orbited overhead.


Suddenly the ship shuddered and a hollow boom reverberated. A mine had detonated against Gneisenau port bow. Water poured in and as the ships had been moving at twenty five knots, the forward momentum caused more damage as water pushed past open doors and quickley flooded the forward tenth of the ship. Within minutes, the battlecruiser was down six feet at the bow and had slowed to three knots.


The destroyer Draug struck again.
 
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It's not just the extra German losses and damage but the lesser British hurt that matters

Taking Narvik as the best example so far ...
OTL the germans lost all 10 DDs plus many supporting vessels any way but sank 2 and damaged 2 off Warburton Lee's squadron plus other damages in the second attack
TTL the cost to the Gemans is the same( (though happened MUCH sooner) but the British butchers bill there is negligible

Similarly at least one DD less has been sunk by the Luftwaffe
 
Does this mean that the aircraft carrier HMS Glorious was not sunk? I am enjoying this time line. I am very interested in how everything turns out.

"Gneisenau and Scharnhorst participated in Operation Weserübung, the German invasion of Norway. During operations off Norway, the two ships engaged the battlecruiser HMS Renown and sank the aircraft carrier HMS Glorious. Gneisenau was damaged in the action with Renown and later torpedoed by a British submarine, HMS Clyde, off Norway. After a successful raid in the Atlantic in 1941, Gneisenau and her sister put in at Brest, France. The two battleships were the subject of repeated bombing raids by the RAF; Gneisenau was hit several times during the raids, though she was ultimately repaired."
 
It's not just the extra German losses and damage but the lesser British hurt that matters

Taking Narvik as the best example so far ...
OTL the germans lost all 10 DDs plus many supporting vessels any way but sank 2 and damaged 2 off Warburton Lee's squadron plus other damages in the second attack
TTL the cost to the Gemans is the same( (though happened MUCH sooner) but the British butchers bill there is negligible

Similarly at least one DD less has been sunk by the Luftwaffe
Yep ... that is where I think the initial plausibility space changes given the POD. The general outlines of the campaigns are the same but things get shaved... and once enough things are shaved, significant discontinuities can logically follow.
 
Does this mean that the aircraft carrier HMS Glorious was not sunk? I am enjoying this time line. I am very interested in how everything turns out.

"Gneisenau and Scharnhorst participated in Operation Weserübung, the German invasion of Norway. During operations off Norway, the two ships engaged the battlecruiser HMS Renown and sank the aircraft carrier HMS Glorious. Gneisenau was damaged in the action with Renown and later torpedoed by a British submarine, HMS Clyde, off Norway. After a successful raid in the Atlantic in 1941, Gneisenau and her sister put in at Brest, France. The two battleships were the subject of repeated bombing raids by the RAF; Gneisenau was hit several times during the raids, though she was ultimately repaired."

Gneisenau OTL was mined in late April... so we shall see....
 
Story 0147

April 11, 1940 1540 north of the Skaw


HMS Sealion crept along, her periscope occasionally flitting upwards through the waves. She had been stalking her prey for the past three hours as it was steaming south at eleven knots. Finally she was in firing position, six hundred yards away and her target would never get any closer. Six torpedoes were fired. Five ran hot, straight and true, the last porpoised through the waves and took a seventy degree turn before settling down to run straight. Two torpedoes missed forward of their target, but the last three detonated along a two hundred foot span of the damaged cruiser Lutzow.

Twelve minutes later, the panzerschiffe sank.
 
Gneisenau OTL was mined in late April... so we shall see....

The 11th of the month is not LATE ...

"Ask me anything except time"

even a despicable despot can have valid insights

(Though in this case time may favour the Nazis ... G may be repaired earlier and have more time to work up in the Baltic)
 
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The 11th of the month is not LATE ...

"Ask me anything except time"

even a despicable despot can have valid insights

(Though in this case time may favour the Nazis ... G may be repaired earlier and have more time to work up in the Baltic)
Mea culpa --- in reality, G was mined on May 5th but was able to steam to intercept the evacuation convoys
 
Mea culpa --- in reality, G was mined on May 5th but was able to steam to intercept the evacuation convoys
True ...

TTL G has ht a modern German contact mine (even if it was laid by Norwegians)

but interesting comparison to OTL

The weapn that he struck in May is sometimes quoted as being an "magnetic mine" or sometimes a "ground mine"

... which means if it was British means it was not modern.

all the British had of either type at that point were 20 year old Mark 1 M designs with crude detonators.

(Yes .. myths to the contrary the Magnetic Mine was first developed and deployed by the RN ... and in WW1 not WW2)

Of course given the OTL location close to the Elbe , it could have been a German stray
 
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Story 0148

April 12, 1940 0800 Narvik


The sailors jumped off the edge of their ship and made fast the lines to secure the old cruiser to the severely damaged pier. The Scots Guards had arrived to reinforce and relive the Norwegian 6th Division. The last German prisoners would be taken away on the fast cruisers. Engineers had already started to survey the ruined port. Liberal use of high explosives had cleared two berthing areas large enough for warships while the merchant docks were still unusable. Royal Navy and Norwegian merchant crews were surveying the captured German merchant ships. Some were innocent bulk carriers with nothing more suspicious than the typical contraband that could be found on most merchant ships. Two however were forward deployed support vessels for the follow-on echelon that had been diverted to Stavanger and Bergen.

Further south, “American tourists” were surveying the fishing ports and secondary ports north of Bodo. Three brigades from three nations would soon be landing in Northern Norway. Another division equivalent was to be landed near Trondheim in order to prevent the Germans from expanding their beach head from the port and cutting the county into two non-supporting segments.
 
Story 0149
April 12, 1940 1520 Oscarburg Fortress

The flag was lowered.

Oberst Eriksen and a small staff of men who had not been able to cross the Drobak Narrows and be taken in by the slowly mobilizing 2nd Division had negotiated a surrender for the fortress to the invading Germans. Three rowboats were coming across the water skirting wide of the wrecked Blucher with the occupation party.

Four hundred sorties had been flown against the fortress. Two of the heavy eleven inch guns had been knocked from the mounts, all of the anti-aircraft positions had been either suppressed or ran out of ammunition by mid-morning. The six inch gun battery was no more after a battalion of German guns along with the cruiser Emdem engaged it with deliberate, spotted and observed fire. The only building that was still habitable on the island was a storage shed on the northern point. Casualties had been light as the garrison was able to shelter underground, but they could not influence the battle. Over the past two nights four hundred men had been evacuated. They could do more with the 2nd Division than as prisoners on the island.

The surrender was to take effect at 1530 local time. At 1525, large explosions were heard. Each of the heavy gun barrels were now splayed, steel tongues reaching outwards as eighty pounds of dynamite were detonated in the barrel and eighty more pounds exploded in the open breach. The fortress had done its job.

As the German commander stepped onto the rock pier, he received the salute of Oberst Eriksen with a respectful reply of his own. The fortress was now German.
 
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