Furthest possible spread of Communism?
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I think there was a very good chance that Germany could have gone Communist in the 1920s-1930s, and if WWII went much worse for the Western Allies, then the USSR could have gotten all of Germany in the bargain. I think France would be pushing it though. You could also have all of Korea and part of Japan go Communist.
The U.S. falls asleep at the wheel and all of Southeast Asia goes Communist. South Vietnam collapses quickly, so Ho and company push for Thailand, and Burma's socialist military regime embraces Moscow.
Not sure the Malayan Emergency was strong enough to reasonably win, and you can have Sukarno embrace Communism or the Soviets sponsor a coup against him after he loses his usefulness in their eyes.
Not sure the Malayan Emergency was strong enough to reasonably win, and you can have Sukarno embrace Communism or the Soviets sponsor a coup against him after he loses his usefulness in their eyes.
Depends on your POD. If you're speaking about an early one, perhaps you could have more of the attempted revolutions of the late 1910s and early 20s to be successful, eg Finland going red and being incorporated into the USSR after the Civil War, also Hungary, Slovakia and Bulgaria. One of my planned scenarios in my Tunguska event timeline was where London has a socialist revolution, with the royals going into Canada, and than providing more help to the Bolsheviks, both militarily and financially, allowing a stronger, more established and more efficient Far Left movement. If you're talking WW2/Cold War, maybe D-Day either fails, is delayed or is slower progress than OTL allowing the Soviets to occupy more of or all of Germany and Austria, and maybe even 'liberate' Denmark and Italy from German oppression. Or maybe America is more laid back in it's foreign policy allowing more communist forces in South East Asia and AFrica.
Maybe towards the end of WW2 the US public and therefore the politicians become more isolationist. Although this doesn't change the course of the war, the aftermath of WW2 is changed with American presence in Europe much less and the rejection of a Marshall Plan.
Without the Marshall Plan the Communist parties in France and Italy remain strong. In the second proper elections after the war these parties come to power after harnessing the discontent at the stagnant ruined economies (without massive US aid there is no European post-war boom).
They come to power with the promise to remain outside of the USSR sphere, but mid-term they withdraw from the US's post-war organisations (NATO etc).
This causes the situation in Europe to change completely, with France and Italy basically under Moscow, West Germany decides to go neutral after the occupation as does the Benelux and Denmark. With only Britain and Norway remaining democratic US allies.
Franco and Salazar become extremely paranoid and go even harsher on their peoples whilst France, Italy and the USSR provide Communist guerrillas with weapons, money and even men. Maybe this starts civil wars which topples one of them.
Eventually the Communists win more elections and the Greek civil war. So we could see the majority of Europe being Communist.
France starts decolonising early due to pressure from Moscow, with them installing communist governments across Africa and Asia (although the US tries to topple them and succeeds in several)
So Communism spreads all over Europe and gives it a much larger reach.
Without the Marshall Plan the Communist parties in France and Italy remain strong. In the second proper elections after the war these parties come to power after harnessing the discontent at the stagnant ruined economies (without massive US aid there is no European post-war boom).
They come to power with the promise to remain outside of the USSR sphere, but mid-term they withdraw from the US's post-war organisations (NATO etc).
This causes the situation in Europe to change completely, with France and Italy basically under Moscow, West Germany decides to go neutral after the occupation as does the Benelux and Denmark. With only Britain and Norway remaining democratic US allies.
Franco and Salazar become extremely paranoid and go even harsher on their peoples whilst France, Italy and the USSR provide Communist guerrillas with weapons, money and even men. Maybe this starts civil wars which topples one of them.
Eventually the Communists win more elections and the Greek civil war. So we could see the majority of Europe being Communist.
France starts decolonising early due to pressure from Moscow, with them installing communist governments across Africa and Asia (although the US tries to topple them and succeeds in several)
So Communism spreads all over Europe and gives it a much larger reach.
