British Southwest TL

I've posted a TL vaguely like this before, however, now, I'm going to ask for input and assistance editing this and the likes, ok? Let's see how this goes!

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PoD 1702: With the death of King William III, his sister-in-law, Princess Anne, became Queen England, Scotland, and Ireland.

The War of Expansion (1702-1713) was the second of the Great Colonial Wars, this one was fought between Spain and (the future) Great Britain in North America for control of the continent and was the counterpart of the War of the Spanish Succession in Europe.

Early in the war, the English captured Spanish-held St. Augustine, Florida, in 1702. English military aid to the colonists was largely effective in defense of the areas around Charleston, South Carolina, and the English North America frontier with the Louisianaise territories. Spanish forces had no allied indigenous tribes to attack English South Carolina, easing the way for a coalition of Colonists, Indians, and English, Scottish, and Irish soldiers to march clear to Santa Fe from Charleston. The English colonists were thrilled to finally fulfill their "Sea to Sea," grants, and Britain was all too-content with becoming the sole North American colonial power. Promising the Indians wide tracts of white person-free lands, and complete autonomy, the war soon developed to be the Spanish, against the British, Dutch, Colonists, and Indians.

Following the capture of Spanish San Antonio in 1710, Tejas was annexed as British territory. By 1712 an armistice was declared. Completely eliminating the Spanish forces in their Nuevo-Mexico provinces, and allying with Southwest Indians, the English marched clear across the Southwest, finally capturing San Diego in the Battle of Saint James Bay. Under terms spelled out in the Treaty of London (1713), Britain gained the Tejan, New Mexican, and New Californian intendencies of New Spain, the Caribbean island Cuba, and Spanish Hispaniola from Spain. The peace lasted until the next of the Great Colonial Wars, The War of Conquest in 1732.

Most of northern French Louisiana was occupied by Britain in this war, the French barely protested as this was all unsettled Indian country; Louisiana was not formally annexed until the end of the War of Conquest. The French did not attempt to further strengthen New France, either. Most Indians of the Southwest, Sonora, and California would eventually make their way to the more-fertile lands of the Creek Indian Confederation, and later to Indiana, where the British government promised them land. The Iroquois League aided the British soldiers in the early captures of Spanish Florida, and northern Louisiana.

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British North America after the Second Great Colonial War

With new, primarily Catholic, provinces on the Pacific coasts, large numbers of English Catholics, Scots Catholics, and Irish immigrated to the Province of English Sonora. Cities such as San Francisco, San Diego, and Santa Ana, and Santa Clara were subsequently re-named Saint Francis, Saint James, Saint Anne, and Saint Claire. Benedict Calvert, son of Charles Calvert, 5th Baron Baltimore, was first named "Royal Governor of the Province of Lower California," in 1721. He, and the founding members of the first Executive Council of the First Province petitioned London, and successfully founded the Honorable English West America Company, and became first Proprietor of English Sonora.

Notable communities grew during the period of Sonoran history known as the Palatinate. The palatial capital was established in Saint James (San Diego.) The Council of the Lord Palatine declared all signs and laws in the colony be published in English and Spanish, the first official bilingual law in North America. The Act of Union of 1725 officially united England & Wales and Scotland into the Kingdom of Great Britain. By the time of the War of Conquest in 1732, English Sonora was the more prosperous of the two British colonies on the Pacific, the Province of English Sonora and the Province of Alta California.

The War of Conquest is the name given to the military operations in North America that formed the third part of the four-part Great Colonial War. The War of the Great Lakes officially began when a French commander in French Illinois Country ordered the raiding of the British settlement of Lake Saint Claire and Detroit, in an attempt to regain French control of eastern New France. The war broke out in 1732 between the French and British and was confined to the Great Lakes and Hudson Bay. This escalated into the War of Conquest when the Spanish joined the side of France, once again. In the course of the war, British colonial forces captured the France stronghold of Louisbourg on Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, but the French captured the western part of the British island of Cuba. French Louisiana was quickly captured, save for the two-week Battle of New Orleans.

The War ended with the Treaty of London, minimizing France's North American empire to French Cuba, St. Pierre et Miquelon, and the rest of the French Caribbean. The War of Conquest did nothing to stop the dispute between Great Britain and France. Spain shifted its allegiance from France to England, as England tightened its alliance with Austria and the conflict continued. This would lead to the War of the Bayou, the fourth of the Great Colonial Wars.

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British North America after the Third Great Colonial War

Queen Anne I of Great Britain died shortly after the signing of the Treaty of London, and her son, Prince James of Wales, became King James III, and first monarch of the House of Stuart-Oldenburg.
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Coat of Arms of the British House of Stuart-Oldenburg
Under James III, the colony of Perennia was the last Atlantic colony, named in honor of Anne I. The colony was founded by James Ogelthorpe as a land were debtors might start over, and was founded out of sparsely populated territory in southern Carolina.

In 1740, the Atlantic provinces of Nova Scotia, Massachusetts Bay, New Hampshire, Vermonte, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey were placed under a primarily-political and military alliance officially named the "Provincial Confederation of New England and Mediana." It quickly became known as the "Second Confederacy." It's government was centered tri-annually on Philadelphia, New York, and Boston. The representative of the king was the President-General of the Confederation, and was appointed by the monarch. He was responsible for Indian relations, military preparedness, and execution of laws regulating various trade and financial activities. The confederal legislature was the Colonial Assembly, made up of two houses. The Council of States was the upper house, and similar to the House of Lords. The Chamber of Deputies was the lower house, similar to the House of Commons.

((Due to the strong alliance of the Kingdom of Great Britain and the Kingdom of Spain with the Habsburg Dominions, Maria Theresa's ascension to the Habsburg throne did not result in a War of Austrian Succession.))
 
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Quite an interesting TL you have here Aussey...a bit Brit-wankish for my tastes but interesting, I'll give you that.

Here are some problems you might want to take a look into...

-The concept of the English doing better in the south and capturing and maintaining Florida is interesting but the fact that they march from Charleston to San Diego overland at the time is quite unrealistic and would be extremely hard especially with the logisitical capabilities of the American colonies and even England at the time. Past the Mississippi and north of the Rio Grande there is very little development going on, it's pretty much all bush.
Besides that, the British simply don't have the resources availiable to hold down all that territory once they do take it. Providing they can even get there in the first place.

It also might not even happen as most of those areas weren't what you call profitable colonies until well into the 19th century and would serve to be a bigger burden upon the empire.

-NW New Spain, Sonora and California wasn't very heavily populated during that time. IIRC there wasn't a whole lot of resources there in the first place. So there would be no need for Bilingual colonies to be founded on the West Coast. Mind you with the incredibly intolerant attitude of the British Empire at the time it's not to terribly likely either.

-Also keep in mind Queen Anne had a disease, Hughes syndrome "Sticky Blood" . As a result she had incredible difficulty producing heirs she had over 10 stillborn pregnancies due to this disease and gave birth to only one son who died before he reached maturity. Also keep in mind that in OTL she stopped getting pregnant around 1700 so you're more likely to have a Hanoverian succession like OTL.

Other than that Good Job! Keep on working and researching! You've got a good idea here!
 
I'm pretty sure that you will have free reign to name the West Coast settlements anything you want. The Spanish had no major presence at least as far north as San Francisco. I also doubt that any Spanish names will be held onto, such as Sonora, etc. New Albion may make a reappearance.
 
Very very interesting. I'm enjoying reading this very much and look foreward to reading more as you add it. I will be especially interested in how you handle The French And Indian War, The American Revolution and Revolutionary War, War Of 1812, and American expansion westward.

Perhaps I spoke a bit too soon. Does your timeline include an American Revolution? Perhaps your timeline butterflys away The American Revolution and we remain part of The Brittish Empire.

I will also be interested in how your timeline handles later events or modern events such as WWI and WWII. Also will be interested in what the present (2007) is like in your timeline.

I hope you are planning to continue this one down to the present.
 
Of course, I have to find a way to make an independent country for my ancestors- behold! The importantance of the Duchy of Lorraine! haha:rolleyes:
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Europe in 1760
The Kingdom of Great Britain and Duchy of Lorraine signed an semi-alliance in 1750, due to increasing French desires to annex the largely-Protestant duchy. To seal the alliance, Prince William of Wales married the youngest daughter of Leopold III of Lorraine, Princess Marie Charlotte, after her conversion to Anglicanism. In 1756, shortly after the first celebration of St. Patrick's Day in the Confederation (leading to the Colonial Assembly declaring Saint Patrick the Patron Saint of the Provincial Confederation of New England and Meridiana,) the French king attempted to re-conquer largely-French Quebec, by declaring war on Great Britain. The French colonial militias from the Caribbean surprised the British in Pensacola, immediately annexing West Florida, even if only in theory. More French settlers were given arms, and deported from New Orleans and Mobile, to capture the British buffer Province of Mississippia. However, due to the colony's defensive reason of institution, they were able to hold off, until the Redcoats came in from New York to hold off the French. While the British defended East Florida, the Grand River country, and Mississippia, the pro-French Louisianaise had help from France arrive. Without warning, the French and Franco-Colonial forces were able to keep control of "La Floride Occidentale," while invading the sparsely populated Grand River country, and the British Plains claims. With the arrival of the French, more soldiers were sent from Britain. With independent French battalions continuing north into Oregon Country, the Russians, with their scattered Oregonian forts declared war on France, having agreements of co-operating with the British along the Oregon rivers. Russian forces from Kodiak met-up with British forces from the Southern Colonies in Mississippia, and caught the French off-guard by marching down the Mississippi, and capturing New Orleans. With French occupied-New Orleans in British hands, the War of the Bayou officially ended.

The Treaty of Philadelphia in 1760, France was forced to return captured British provinces, and surrendering of all claims to the Continent. Great Britain and Russia also formally divided Oregon country. With the signing of the Treaty of Philadelphia, the Great Colonial Wars came to a close, opening a new chapter in New World History.

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North America after the Fourth Great Colonial War

Beginning after the Treaty of Philadelphia, the British Government began forcibly removing the Native Americans from the Great Lakes Region, and placing them in the un-colonized lands west of the Mississippi. Plans for this move had been developing for years, and was the reason for the forming of the buffer-colony of Mississippia, which, by 1765 had the most people-per-square-mile, than any other colony in British North America. The new lands were officially titled "Western Indian Reserve of the British Empire" by King William IV of Great Britain. The 5 Civilized Tribes of the British Empire in North America, were offerred to control the vast land of "Indiana," or stay in the Creek Confederation land, which was given to the colonists. For the most part, they took power in Indiana.

With the death of Leopold III of Lorraine in 1766, the inheritance of the duchy was supposed to pass to his eldest daughter, Marie Elizabeth, due to the pragmatic sanction issued by him shortly before his death, and acknowledged by the King of Great Britain, the Holy Roman Emperor, and the Elector of Bavaria. However, upon his death, Louis XV announced he was annexing Lorraine. This was the beginning of the War of the Lorrainian Succession. The War of the Lorrainian Succession (1766-1770). Elizabeth II of Lorraine succeeded her father Leopold III, Duke of Lorraine in 1766, namely becoming Duchess of Lorraine and the Moselle. For a woman to inherit such Salian land, especially between the Salic monarchies of Germany and France, involved many complications, which were perceived long before, and Duke Leopold III had long anticipated them, getting all the other powers to agree to the Pragmatic Sanction of 1753. The plan was for her to succeed to the hereditary Vaudemont domains, and her husband, Prince Benedetto, son of Charles Emmanuel III of Sardinia, to sit in the Holy Roman councils, and represent Lorraine as the "Ducal Consort of Lorraine." This, however, was not respected.

Hostilities began when King Louis XV of France, having not himself agreed to the Pragmatic Sanction, invaded western Lorraine, using some unsettled dynastic claims as a pretext. Elizabeth, as a woman, was perceived as weak, and some other princes (such as Charles Albert of Bavaria) alleged rights to the crown. They ended with the Treaty of Nancy in 1770. After 1768 nearly all the powers of Europe were involved in the struggle, but the most enduring military interest of the war lies in the struggle of the British-Lorrainian coalition and France for Lorrainian sovereignty. The constant allies of France were Bavaria and Hesse. Various other powers joined them at intervals. The cause of Lorraine was supported almost as a matter of course by the Great Britain, the Netherlands, and Sardinia, the traditional enemies of France. Of Lorraine's allies, Great Britain and Sardinia were the most important.

With the signing of the Treaty of Nancy, France was forced to recognize Elizabeth as Sovereign of Lorraine, and had to cede the largely Protestant, Germannic, and anti-French Alsace to the young monarch. Shortly after the signing of the Treaty of Nancy, Prince Benedetto was made Grand Duke of Lorraine and Alsace, as co-monarch with his wife. Upon this styling, the Holy Roman Emperor refused to allow her husband, Prince Benedict, to sit in on the Holy Roman councils, and the Grand Duchy declared its complete and udder independence from the Holy Roman Empire in 1772. Their son was betrothed to a Hollander princess shortly there after, insuring the half-Protestant, half-Catholic, tolerant nation was be protected.

In Eastern Europe, Catherine II’s Russian Empire was on a conquering stampede. With the entire Russian nation supporting the Empress’s “Greek Project,” almost overnight, the Russian Empire’s southern border was every increasing. In 1775, Catherine II of Russia, and Joseph II of Austria signed an alliance to defeat the Ottoman Empire, and extend their borders so that “no Mohammedan may ever again rule any European and Christian realm.” The Austro-Russian alliance soon proved stronger than the Turks could handle. A crusade of sorts, was instituted, with support of the Sardinians, and the Venetians. In 1776, the Two Sicilies joined the Austro-Russian coalition, and the Greeks rose up in rebellion against the Ottomans, along with the Serbs.

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Europe in 1775​

Being part of the "Victorious Allies," (Great Britain, Lorraine, the Netherlands, and Sardinia) Great Britain was now ready to begin isolating itself from continental affairs, focusing internally, and in its overseas provinces. Shortly before his death, in 1777, William IV finally signed the “Reorganization Act” which ordered all Indians wishing to stay under Indian rule, to cross the Mississippi, into Indiana; and extended Virginia, Carolina, and Perennia’s borders to the Mississippi River, extended West Florida’s borders further north, granted territory around the Great Lakes to New England & Meridiana, and created a 23rd colony, west of Pennsylvania, which was chartered a crown colony under the name of “Province of Saratoga,” due to Pennsylvania’s claims to Westmoreland County, Connecticut. It also stated how provinces were to be made out of territories designed to become provinces; allowed Catholics to vote in colonies which the formed more than 40% of; and made Cuba and Hispaniola one province, under the name of "New Iberia."

The “Act Recognizing the Loyalist Cause of the Province of Virginia,” known in Virginia as the “Virginia Act,” recognized Virginia as an equal part of the Kingdom of Great Britain, and no-longer a colonial province, though there were some recognizable differences with Virginia, as opposed to England, Scotland, and Wales: The Virginian Assembly was renamed the “Provincial Parliament of Virginia,” and Virginia sent 7 representative peers to the House of Lords, and elected 15 members to the House of Commons. The king was referred to as “His Majesty the King in Virginia,” in Virginia, and at the monarch's coronation. The Royal Governor was replaced with a Virginian chosen by the King to be “Lord Lieutenant of Virginia.” The official name of the former-province was now “dominion,” based of the poetic-term for the colony during the English Civil War.

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Flag of the Provincial Confederation of New England & Mediana

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Flag of the Dominion of Virginia

With the death of William IV in 1778, he was succeeded by his daughter, Sophia, who would later become Great Britain’s longest reigning, and most famous monarch, and give her name to an era (Sophian Era), a type of architecture (Greco-Sophian Revival), and a type of government (Politique Sophie.) She is also considered Britain’s “Enlightened Monarch.”
Sophia I assumed the thrones of the Kingdom of Great Britain and Kingdom of Ireland on April 19, 1778 as “Sophia, by the Grace of God, Queen of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Queen in Virginia, Defender of the Faith, etc.” The first act signed “Sophia Regina” was that titled “Western Ordinance Act,” which extended the borders of the provinces of Alta California and English Sonora, who’s populations had more than tripled since their becoming of British provinces; and established an area around Albion Island, to become a territory designed to become a province, called "New Albion". Meanwhile, the settlers in Newfoundland began petitioning London for the establishment of a province, which it was granted. Throughout the British Empire, in London and North America, plans for easy communication and access of the Western and Eastern colonies, began.

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British North America at the Turn of the 19th Century
 
WOW! A lot of you responded! I didn't expect such response, even if it isn't THAT much, it's great! Let me put this up, and then I'll start to respond to all of you! Thanks so much!
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By 1780, the world status was quite unique in comparison to other periods of time. British colonies in North America were well-populated, and developing. France was undergoing major liberal reform, Spain had been re-organizing it’s New World colonies, and, along with Portugal, had kept stable for quite some time.

The leaders of Europe in 1780 went as follows:
Denmark-Norway: HM King Christian VII
France: HMCM King Louis XVI
Great Britain: HM Queen Sophia
Holy Roman Empire: HIM Emperor Joseph II
Ireland: HM Queen Sophia
Portugal: HM Queen Mary
Prussia: HM King Frederick II
Russia: HIM Empress Catherine II
Spain: HMCM King Charles III
Sweden: HM King Gustav III
United Provinces: HE William V, Stadtholder of the Netherlands

((Of these, Sophia of Great Britain; Joseph II of the Holy Roman Empire, Maria of Portugal, Frederick II of Prussia, and Catherine II of Russia were considered “Enlightened Monarchs.”))

BY 1800, the Holy Roman Empire had experienced some drastic changes. Prussia had incorporated Mecklenburg, and most of the Protestant northern German principalities. Through dynastic marriages and inheritance, both the Austrian Netherlands and Lorraine extended their borders. Brunswick and Luneburg had managed to remain independent, and united forming the Kingdom of Hannover. Bavaria had overtaken many of the Catholic South German principalities, while the Grand Duke of Hesse allied with the United Provinces of the Netherlands in conquering the Rhineland. The central principalities, though independent, had all allied with either of the three surrounding powers; Prussia, Hesse, and Bavaria.

The Habsburg dominions and Russia allied against the Ottoman Empire in the what is called the Russo-Turkish or Austro-Turkish War, lasting from 1783 to 1798. The Habsburg archdukes extended their Hungarian realm to the Black Sea, while the Russian Empire annexed most of Wallachia and Caucasia. From 1780 to 1783, the Austrians and Venetians fought in the Austro-Venetian War, with Austria coming out victorious, and the Habsburg archduke becoming King of Venice. Venetia was granted much more autonomy, and the doge was granted the title “First Minister of Venetia,” and retained much of his former power.

In the Italian peninsula Savoy and Sardinia had been incorporated into the Piedmontese realm, and began colonizing northern Africa (along with Spain, and the Neapolitan-Sicilian union.) France too, had taken Algiers, and claimed the entire Algerian coast. The Ottoman Empire had reached its destroying point with the Christian powers of Europe eating it to pieces.

In terms of centralization, France underwent major reforms, centralizing the entire kingdom under the power of Paris, finally destroying loyalties to feudalist lords. Naples and Sicily formally united under a 1783 Act of Union formally naming the entity the “Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.” This union allowed for more Neapolitan and Sicilian men to join the new “Grand Union Army,” and fight in the Balkan War. In 1784, the Greek rebels invited Michal August Poniatowski, son of the last King of Poland, to be crowned “King of the Hellenes.” With approval from the Russian Empress and Austrian Emperor, Michal accepted and was crowned “King Michael I of the Hellenes.” It would be year, though, before his nation, the declared “Kingdom of the Hellenes,” would be a formal state.

MEANWHILE, the European settlements and colonies in the New World were more prosperous than ever. The period between 1785 and 1800 is actually called the “Prosperous Age,” in the New World nations (Spanish: Edad Próspera, French: Âge Prospère, Portugese: Idade Próspera,) The British settlements on the West Coast of the Americas soon became the largest of all Western settlements aside from Spanish Peru. Indeed, San Francisco was as much the immigrant city in 1787 as it is today. English, Spanish, French, and First Nations-tongue were all spoken in the coastal parishes. Because of it's large distance from the Seaboard colonies, and the Mothercountry, and the presence of a palatinate, Sonora was able to throw off much of the British paternalism, and embrace it's aborigines. Irrigation in 1788, brought a large amounts of land to become able to be cultivated.

In 1789, the last male-line descendent of Benedict Charles Calvert, 1st Lord Sonora, James Charles Calvert (his great-great-grandson,) died, leaving his sister the sole remaining heir to the proprietory colony. Lettice Calvert-Eden successfully petitioned the Council of the Honorable English West America Company to become Countess and Lady-Palatine of English Sonora, against her eldest son, Charles Eden, a suspected Catholic, and became the first female ruler of any British colony. As Lady-Palatine, Lettice Calvert-Eden wrote, and signed into law the “Proprietary Styles Act of the Independent-English colonial province of Sonora,” styling herself “Illustrious Excellency,” and the full title “Her Illustrious Excellency Lady Lettice Calvert-Eden, Countess Palatine of English Sonora,” as a nod to the Spanish styling of colonial rulers as "Illustrious Excellency." The parishes within the colony were placed under direct Palatinal control, and the first constitution “Palatinal Law of the Province,” was also passed within months of her “ascension.” The heir to the palatinate was to be titled “Viscount la Ballona,” after the Rancho la Ballona, located near Saint Monica, the provincial capital. The style’s act also allowed all rancho-owners to be titled “The Hon. Lord X,” should he convert to the Anglican Church and swear an Oath of Loyalty to the King and Kingdom of Great Britain. This act was not formally signed by London until 1820 with the creation of Sonora as a dually palatine-county and colonial-province.

In 1792, the Governor John Montgomery of the sparsely California and the Sierras traveled from Saint Francis (San Francisco) to Saint Monica, partially by ways of the Camino Real, to meet with the Countess-Palatine Lettice Calvert-Eden of Sonora. An agreement to extend the Camino-Real to reach from Saint Rose (Santa Rosa), California all the way to Saint James (San Diego), Sonora; thus connecting all the major settlements of the British Pacific. Plans to extend the road past San Diego, into the Baja where made, and an attempt at building a city, Carolapolis, was made in the northern Baja, but the British workers were only murdered or chased out by the native Dieguans of the Baja, which would not be fully colonized by Britain under the mid-19th century.

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Flag of the Provincial Palatinate of Sonora in 1800
 
Very interesting. More? :) :cool:

Thank you!

What's up with Mexico?

Their north has been conquered...

-The concept of the English doing better in the south and capturing and maintaining Florida is interesting but the fact that they march from Charleston to San Diego overland at the time is quite unrealistic and would be extremely hard especially with the logisitical capabilities of the American colonies and even England at the time. Past the Mississippi and north of the Rio Grande there is very little development going on, it's pretty much all bush.
Besides that, the British simply don't have the resources availiable to hold down all that territory once they do take it. Providing they can even get there in the first place.

Hmmm...I see what you're saying. However, as we all know, there isn't much to stand in their way across Texas and into New Mexico. I did forget to think about how hot the Sonoran Desert is (I guess living here, you get used to it.) Perhaps they navigate in smaller "ships" through the Colorado once they capture Santa Fe? Plus...the Spainards HAD to have some trails...

-NW New Spain, Sonora and California wasn't very heavily populated during that time. IIRC there wasn't a whole lot of resources there in the first place. So there would be no need for Bilingual colonies to be founded on the West Coast. Mind you with the incredibly intolerant attitude of the British Empire at the time it's not to terribly likely either.

Why did it take them so long to mine the gold?
I know the land in California (American) is very fertile...
No bilingual you all say?

-Also keep in mind Queen Anne had a disease, Hughes syndrome "Sticky Blood" . As a result she had incredible difficulty producing heirs she had over 10 stillborn pregnancies due to this disease and gave birth to only one son who died before he reached maturity. Also keep in mind that in OTL she stopped getting pregnant around 1700 so you're more likely to have a Hanoverian succession like OTL.

I know, but I didn't want to tie Britain to Hanover. Perhaps it really isn't her child? Just snuck in during delivery :rolleyes:

Other than that Good Job! Keep on working and researching! You've got a good idea here!

thanks!

I'm pretty sure that you will have free reign to name the West Coast settlements anything you want. The Spanish had no major presence at least as far north as San Francisco. I also doubt that any Spanish names will be held onto, such as Sonora, etc. New Albion may make a reappearance.

There were, however, the "powerful" rancheros. And I'm trying to make a better world :rolleyes: haha. New Albion comes into use soon, don't worry.

Very very interesting. I'm enjoying reading this very much and look foreward to reading more as you add it. I will be especially interested in how you handle The French And Indian War, The American Revolution and Revolutionary War, War Of 1812, and American expansion westward.

Perhaps I spoke a bit too soon. Does your timeline include an American Revolution? Perhaps your timeline butterflys away The American Revolution and we remain part of The Brittish Empire.

Maybe...maybe not. I dunno yet!:)

I will also be interested in how your timeline handles later events or modern events such as WWI and WWII. Also will be interested in what the present (2007) is like in your timeline.

I hope you are planning to continue this one down to the present.

Good! Stay tuned! Critique! Add stuff! and most of all...THANKS!
 
There were, however, the "powerful" rancheros. And I'm trying to make a better world :rolleyes: haha. New Albion comes into use soon, don't worry.

No there weren't. The Spanish didn't colonize until about 1769 - well after Britain's annexation in your ATL.
 
It might be cool to have some Native American-inspired names for provinces, as the Spanish did in their early days, like Pimeria, Apacheria, Tejas, or Quivera (a mythical civilization the Spanish thought existed in North America).
 
No there weren't. The Spanish didn't colonize until about 1769 - well after Britain's annexation in your ATL.

Well in that case...maybe there won't be bilinguals. But the name California's already associated with the area.

pa_dutch said:
It might be cool to have some Native American-inspired names for provinces, as the Spanish did in their early days, like Pimeria, Apacheria, Tejas, or Quivera (a mythical civilization the Spanish thought existed in North America).

Yeah. Apacheria and Pimeria are already names I'm gonna use. And "Grand River country," that's gonna become a province with some form of Tejas...
 
Well in that case...maybe there won't be bilinguals. But the name California's already associated with the area.

Great Heavens! We were talking about town names, like San Francisco or San Diego, etc. There's a Penguin Atlas of North American History that draws out the division of New Spain over the decades so you may want to consult that first.

Try:

http://www.u.arizona.edu/~mrankin/mexicoimages.html

It would appear that ITTL California, and other parts of New Spain, were conquered before the Spanish really settled them. So there probably (tho most likely) not be any '..English Sonora..' named such.
 
Great Heavens! We were talking about town names, like San Francisco or San Diego, etc. There's a Penguin Atlas of North American History that draws out the division of New Spain over the decades so you may want to consult that first.

Try:

http://www.u.arizona.edu/~mrankin/mexicoimages.html

It would appear that ITTL California, and other parts of New Spain, were conquered before the Spanish really settled them. So there probably (tho most likely) not be any '..English Sonora..' named such.

thanks. and i get what you're saying now...
 
Aussey, I'm afraid you're whole Coast to Coast Expedition is still a little far fetched.

Keep in mind that the entire area was VERY Sparsely populated during this time there ain't a whole lot north of the Rio Grande other than missions and Indians. The number of ranches is going to be miniscule at best.

What do the men of your expedition eat? Where do they get the gunpowder for their guns? What about the variety of diseases (no 20th century medicinal knowledge)? Their supply train is going to be WAY too long for them to be supported from Charleston.

Also what are the Spanish doing at this time? Are they just going to sit back and watch as the shoestring American colonial expedition takes the northern half of New Spain?

I'm sorry but it's a little too much to believe...

As for the matter of a non-Hanoverian line of succession following Anne perhaps she can name a successor that appeals to Parliament? Since your explanation of James' birth seems a little far-fetched.
 
Should maybe the PoD be pushed up to George II's son becoming Frederick I??? Maybe he could establish this pan-continental empire...Thoughts?
 
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