The challenge is to have a foreign country be at war with the United States post 1900 and to land a significant force on the Continental US and occupy land for at least three months.
AHC: Invasion of the Mainland United States post 1900
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US joins Central Powers through various PODs beforehand. British navy invade New York and Washington DC and Canadian forces occupy some territories in the West for a few months before American liberation forces can expel foreign armies.
QueerSpear
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A fully industrialized Russia and China, with German help, could do it though it would be a matter of time before they're expelled.
I don't think it would take three months.
I don't think it would take three months.
How about....
During world war 2 the Canadians pick the optimal time to change sides. Prior to switching sides, after careful study of US troop movements, the Canadians propose to redeploy the bulk of their forces in the Pacific. Several divisions of Canadians are in Vancouver when the Canadians switch sides and occupy parts of the U.S. Pacific North west. After bitter fighting the final Canadian forces in Point Roberts Washington are forced to surrender after just over three months of bitter fighting.
Canada then surrenders and the rest of the world wonder what happened
I realize this is implausible / unthinkable in the real world
No Spanish American war. Have the Venezuelan Crisis somehow unintentionally escalate to war. Spain joins in as they expect to go to war with America anyways, Japan joins to get easy land and weaken a competitor in the Pacific, and Mexico quickly piles on when offered some territories in the South West.
Britain/Germany/Italy/Japan/Spain/Mexico effectively destroy the US quickly.
Britain/Germany/Italy/Japan/Spain/Mexico effectively destroy the US quickly.
Best POD, by far, is the Venezuelan debt crisis going sour. IIRC Germany was calling for a united European front against the U.S. and Canada, Britain, and Germany all had done invasion planning If it goes bad, it's very possible you could see action on U.S. territory. Maine is probably the most likely area; the British always had areas there they wanted to quickly seize if war broke out to make Canada more defensible.
This sounds probable.
Though that is one hell of a bender and hangover.
Eh, the locals don't complain because they're getting paid for the alchohol while the Mexicans just sorta leave the idiot there to avoid the embarrassment.
missouribob
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In the early 1970s a nuclear war between the United States and Soviets breaks out. In 1999 an expansionist power from the Southern Hemisphere lands troops in the land previously known as the United States to support a local warlord for economic extraction reasons. By 2017 in this ATL the client state has been replaced by direct administration and is actively expanding...
Let's start with reviewing invasion routes.
Invading from the North is easy if you just March South from the Prairie Provinces HOWEVER delivering enough troops and beans and bullets is difficult because the bulk of Canada transportation routes run East to West within helicopter range of the American border.
Invading from the East requires seizing densely-populated ports, then traversing the Appalachian Mountains.
Invasion from the South is comparatively easy with dozens of ports, few mountains and the Mississippi River to move supplies.
Invading from the West is most difficult with only a handful of ports, then transportation routes quickly funnel through steep mountain passes, so invading the West Coast of the USA is almost as difficult as invading Switzerland.
Given that the Mexican Gulf Coast is the easiest to invade ..... we start asking questions about "Who would invade?" and "How would they sneak fleets past Florida or the Windward Islands?"
Invading from the North is easy if you just March South from the Prairie Provinces HOWEVER delivering enough troops and beans and bullets is difficult because the bulk of Canada transportation routes run East to West within helicopter range of the American border.
Invading from the East requires seizing densely-populated ports, then traversing the Appalachian Mountains.
Invasion from the South is comparatively easy with dozens of ports, few mountains and the Mississippi River to move supplies.
Invading from the West is most difficult with only a handful of ports, then transportation routes quickly funnel through steep mountain passes, so invading the West Coast of the USA is almost as difficult as invading Switzerland.
Given that the Mexican Gulf Coast is the easiest to invade ..... we start asking questions about "Who would invade?" and "How would they sneak fleets past Florida or the Windward Islands?"
Red Napoleon by Floyd Gibbons. A 1928 "Future History" of the invasion of North America by a Soviet Union which has conquered Europe, the UK and Japan (and captured their fleets). The invasion is by the Japanese in Puget Sound and by the Europeans through the St. Lawrence and down through New England. The climatic battles are at New York City (think Stalingrad on the Hudson) and a super Jutland in the Windward Passage.
I think this novel has been reprinted but I have an original copy "liberated" from my Grandmother's attic.
I think this novel has been reprinted but I have an original copy "liberated" from my Grandmother's attic.
Riain
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In practical terms there isn't a problem for one, or more likely a couple, of European Great powers to undertake the military operation that the OP requires up to about mid 1916. Its even easier if Mexico or Canada is involved. In this day and age its difficult too fathom how militarily weak the US was before WW1.
The problem is finding a cassus belli that leads to the invasion off CONUS before 1916. In that regard I've got nothing.
The problem is finding a cassus belli that leads to the invasion off CONUS before 1916. In that regard I've got nothing.
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You mean Germans invade like they did in the 1901 bovel by Robert Conroy.
He also had a second one where Germans invade in 1920, after winning the first world war (the US remained neutral) and use Mexico as a launching off point.
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Yes! That's the one, I vaguely recall seeing this years ago but couldn't remember what it was called. Blimey, the big guy was Peter Ustinov?