Look, I’m neither a Novgorodian nor a member of a Hanseatic League so how am I supposed to know the reason? 😂
The only thing I do know is that there was a detailed agreement defining all interactions and procedures.
AHC: Best possible fate for Russia and Eastern Europe after Mongol Invasion
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The only thing I do know is that there was a detailed agreement defining all interactions and procedures.
If its after the Mongol Invasion then cant you just leave the mongols there? 🤔
Pretty sure everyone was happy with that arrangement~
Then again thats just Ursogulos's TL
Pretty sure everyone was happy with that arrangement~
Then again thats just Ursogulos's TL
Thats exactly what a hanseatic novgorodian would say!
The kid named overtaxed Russian peasant/noblemen under the Mongol yoke reading this
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Well russians did have a thing for naming people Alex and thats my name so
Then they gotta add more taxes!
I jest but the amount of times I've seen people here say the problem with [insert state] is that it wasnt taxing people enough....
Trying to work off this as an idea in another, If ATL Ivan V doesn't have his father rub off on him, he could certainly be less mercurial. But a democratic system of some kind taking root, might take time? Perhaps Ivan V tries to make a more workable arrangement with the Boyars, the Zemsky Sabor becomes more frequent, and from there a gradual expansion of a franchise? However, if nothing else Russia, will be better off not going through the Time of Troubles, assuming Ivan has an heir.
I've said this before in other threads, but I have thought of making a Russiawank (likely in Maps & Graphics) where Russia becomes a constitutional monarchy similar in structure to the UK.
PLC wank (the problem is it's quite hard to pull off, you'd need all monarchs in neighbouring states to be born as mumbling idiots), it'd provide democracy to almost all of Eastern Europe.
It's harder to answer, because Eastern Europe was not an united state and growth for one means negative growth for another one
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Avoiding the Time of Troubles doesn't actually help Muscovy. Everyone else in Eurasia had some sort of major crisis in the 17th century (English Civil War, 30 Years War, Fall of Ming, instability in Ottoman), and Muscovy wouldn't have escaped having some sort of major crisis. If anything the Time of Troubles helped Muscovy in a back-asswards way, since they got their crisis "out of the way", so to speak, and were back on the upswing to take advantage of their neighbors' crisis.
Indeed. With the first Romanovs isolationism was on the way out: Polish and Swedish military advantages were too obvious to be ignored and “cultural import” kept growing steadily. While economic and geographic destruction was on a scale of the 30YW, it looks like by the time of Alexey it was already a thing of the past. The main problem was that Tsardom was short of the needed natural resources (iron, copper, lead, etc.) and generally poor and underdeveloped well before Ivan IV and his exercises. To make a significant difference, the Tsardom has to expand to the Ural and beyond and start intensive exploitation of its resources centuries prior to OTL and/or conquer Donetsk region and start its exploitation somewhere in the XVI - XVII century. Neither option looks very realistic to me even if they are technically not ASBs.