Alternative History Armoured Fighting Vehicles Part 3

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I do wish you Americans wouldn't call Petrol engines "gas engines". Everybody of note, in the world refers to them as "petrol" or "benzene" engines. Gas engines run on gaseous products, not liquid products.
I'm not American but since that's the most common term I hear...I agree petrol is better, that's what we use in French (and diesel meanwhile is "gazole"...).

Unrelated, but from the information I have a diesel would have been even better for what the US was trying to do in the late 40s. For one diesels need a high air flow to properly mix the last second injected fuel and they can spool the super-or-turbocharger better at low rpm than petrol engines because they are not throttled and there is a high air flow, and the forced induction provides that high air flow. That's why naturally-aspirated diesels suck (and most WW2 diesels were NA), and that makes the use of chargers easier which is pretty much mandatory postwar. They can leverage American work on both types of chargers which was quite impressive at the time.

Diesels also run cooler than petrol and have more air flow so they are more convenient for air-cooling even at low rpm, which is what the US wanted.

So overall US air-cooled supercharged diesels would have been quite an improvement in the early postwar period, especially at low rpm regimes.


Last interesting point, Sir Ricardo actually looked at the AVDS-1790 and concluded that with a wider bore to reach 32L displacement, it would be able to reach 1500hp max and 1800 at an even greater displacement. So it would only have taken a small increase in displacement to make this engine very good. Ricardo truly was the last hope of the British engine industry.
 

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So, the main reasons plus "less chance to go boom" the military took it up?...
But Soviet testing showed that high velocity rounds thru a partially filled tank will ruin the crew's day, no matter what type the fuel.
In some ways, diesel is worse, once it does start burning.
From my reading, it was mostly for the economy in the US. At the most basic level, Diesel has more BTUs per gallon than Gasoline, higher energy content.
 
I do wish you Americans wouldn't call Petrol engines "gas engines". Everybody of note, in the world refers to them as "petrol" or "benzene" engines. Gas engines run on gaseous products, not liquid products.
Apparently its not meant to be gas as in 'gas' but a shortened form of gasoline
 
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I thought it was an abbreviature of gasoline?

:eek::eek::eek::eek::(:(:'(:'( I can't even... I'm going to cry in a corner...

And then they went and complicated things further by using a gas turbine in the M1... :p

Yup, I have run into the same issue out here in the US when I tried to describe a gas BBQ. The dude in the store looked at me as though I was Satin himself until I explained that in the U.K. gas means a gaseous substance (propane) and gas (gasoline) is petrol. He clearly thought that this would be the end result of my sausage grilling exploits…

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Yup, I have run into the same issue out here in the US when I tried to describe a gas BBQ. The dude in the store looked at me as though I was Satin himself until I explained that in the U.K. gas means a gaseous substance (propane) and gas (gasoline) is petrol. He clearly thought that this would be the end result of my sausage grilling exploits…
next time ask them for a skottel braai lol
 
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Yup, I have run into the same issue out here in the US when I tried to describe a gas BBQ. The dude in the store looked at me as though I was Satin himself until I explained that in the U.K. gas means a gaseous substance (propane) and gas (gasoline) is petrol. He clearly thought that this would be the end result of my sausage grilling exploits…

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That's why you just use charcoal for a cookout.
 

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7Yup, I have run into the same issue out here in the US when I tried to describe a gas BBQ. The dude in the store looked at me as though I was Satin himself until I explained that in the U.K. gas means a gaseous substance (propane) and gas (gasoline) is petrol. He clearly thought that this would be the end result of my sausage grilling exploits…
Now, in my part of the US (Wisconsin) you call something a gas grill, and god and his brother know you mean a propane grill. You can source refillable propane tanks everywhere from grocery stores, hardware stores, and even gasoline stations! Still, many purists still consider any heat source not charcoal or hickory to be blasphemy
 
Now, in my part of the US (Wisconsin) you call something a gas grill, and god and his brother know you mean a propane grill. You can source refillable propane tanks everywhere from grocery stores, hardware stores, and even gasoline stations! Still, many purists still consider any heat source not charcoal or hickory to be blasphemy

I hear you brother but in deepest Missouri propane is propane, a BBQ is a grill and gas explodes with impressive combustible properties… Petrol is just so much foreign socialist nonsense not to be worth mentioning… Going home soon to Scotland where I can look forward to using gas or charcoal BBQs and damp weekends cooking sausages under an umbrella! Marvelous… 😋🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
 
I've had the gas/gas issue in Bulgaria. Our two Americans were top people in every way except when we were running low on petrol. Asking for gas means you have a car powered by liquefied gas, so about 1 in 5 petrol stations have it and none of the locals know which one. Confusion and rising stress follow. But say the magic word benzin - well, everyone knows where to get that! Relief and calmness rapidly follow.
Life would be easier, but less interesting without local colour.
 
Now, in my part of the US (Wisconsin) you call something a gas grill, and god and his brother know you mean a propane grill. You can source refillable propane tanks everywhere from grocery stores, hardware stores, and even gasoline stations! Still, many purists still consider any heat source not charcoal or hickory to be blasphemy
Amen , same in central IL
 
Now, in my part of the US (Wisconsin) you call something a gas grill, and god and his brother know you mean a propane grill. You can source refillable propane tanks everywhere from grocery stores, hardware stores, and even gasoline stations! Still, many purists still consider any heat source not charcoal or hickory to be blasphemy
but then again that is near canada lol eh
 
Sounds like we need a South African AFV with the engine deck modified so you can grill the slow wildlife on the grille. I think it would rank alongside the Boiling Vessel as one of the best tank ideas ever.
 
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