A Nurave Style Sparkledog and a Possible 2010s Yuppie Revival
without emo music sparkledogs are much sweeter looking than in OTL (as nurave is popular instead)

and without teens in the early 2000s being drafted to war and the 2008 recession being smaller/coming at an earlier date or not happening at all
hipster culture never comes to rise

as millennials actually get the jobs and lives they wanted as kids resulting in a yuppie revival instead
(just like their boomer parents who were yuppies back in the 80s)

(notice how hes holding a phone with palm os as well, palm inc was another company affected by both 9/11 and the recession)


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I assume in a world without the September 11th attacks or the War on Terror, the late 2000s Recession and the Housing Bubble Pop probably won't be as bad, but they'll still affect a lot of people.
 
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A promotional image of Seth MacFarlane's reboot of The Flintstones.

Seth MacFarlane had previously created the animated sitcom Family Guy, which had been cancelled back in 2002. While MacFarlane had tried to renew Family Guy due to strong DVD sales and highly rated reruns on Cartoon Network's nighttime block Adult Swim, Fox declined so he had decided to pitch a reboot of The Flintstones. He had hoped that the reboot would hopefully attract a wider audience than Family Guy had.

Working together with Warner Bros.' Animation (who owned the rights to The Flintstones following Hanna-Barbera being absorbed into WB following William Hanna's death in 2001), The Flintstones would debut on Fox in 2005. While commentators and network execs were nervous at first, the show quickly became a critical and commercial success playing off the animated family comedy tropes that the original 1960s show had practically invented. While the reboot remained faithful to the original show's aesthetic, it additionally added some adult humor to it.

The Flintstones reboot would start airing in syndication on various television networks across the US a few years later. It would also aired reruns on Adult Swim, alongside Family Guy and the original Flintstones, the later having been added to the Adult Swim lineup by popular demand and to counterbalance the reboot, often airing episodes from each version back to back.

From @Iwanh 's timeline Geronimo: What if Osama Bin Laden was killed prior to 9/11?, where Osama Bin Laden was killed in 1998. However, the stuff about the show airing on Adult Swim and in syndication is my own original idea.

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Photo is the character concept art from the OTL cancelled 2010s Seth MacFarlane reboot of The Flintstones. Info about it can be found here.

In a world without the September 11th Attacks, Seth MacFarlane likely wouldn't make American Dad unless it's a James Bond-style show.
 
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A 20 second portion of the pilot episode of the Adult Swim animated series The Boondocks. Based on the comic strip of the same name by Aaron McGruder.

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Without the September 11th Attacks, The Boondocks as a TV show would likely be quite different compared to OTL. It would likely be more mellow like the plot clip above and the comic. I might be seen something like a black Charlie Brown. Hopefully, that didn't come out wrong.
 
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One of the posters made for promoting the movie Spider-Man (2002).

In the poster, Spider-Man can be seen peeking out from the side of a building while the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center can be seen reflected in his eyes. The reflection of the Chrysler Building can also be seen on the building behind him.
 
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Final shot of Resident Evil: Ground Zero (2002) showing zombies in the Brooklyn Bridge right after Matt (Eric Mabius) and Alice (Milla Jovovich) ride into the overrun city in a van full of guns.

(The actual photo is from the movie Zombi 2. This is actually based on a the first draft of the movie. It was originally titled as Ground Zero and the final scene would show the two protagonists driving into NYC in a van full of guns. The last shot would see the ruined New York City skyline but the Twin Towers are still there.)
 
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Filipinos protest for the removal of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo after election fraud was discovered in the 2004 elections following the Hello Garci Scandal.
 
Yeah, from that iconic timeline.
For future reference though on this thread. If the image of photo comes from an actual timeline from either here or somewhere else, please mention in your post that it comes from that specific timeline. I had that marked as rule #3 of the thread.

If said photo or video comes from an actual alternate history timeline on this website or wherever. Please mention that it comes from that specific timeline.
 
Election of 2000
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Blue-Democrat-Al Gore

Election of 2004
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Red-Republican-George W. Bush
Blue-Democrat-John Kerry

Election of 2008
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Red-Republican-John McCain
Blue-Democrat-John Kerry

Contemporary historians gave the 2000s in the United States the nickname of the Decade of the Three Presidents as the incumbent President loses re-election.
 
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Contemporary historians gave the 2000s in the United States the nickname of the Decade of the Three Presidents as the incumbent President loses re-election.
So, the 2000 presidential election went the same as OTL with George W. Bush narrowly defeating Al Gore despite the latter winning the popular.

The 2004 presidential election has John Kerry narrowly defeating Bush. Was it Kerry or Bush who won the popular vote in this scenario?

The 2008 presidential election has John McCain defeat Kerry by a decent margin. This is likely due to the Late 2000s Recession, though without the War on Terror or the Iraq War, it probably wouldn't be as bad compared to OTL.

I wonder if John McCain will win reelection in 2012 or if he'll lose to the Democratic candidate.
 
So, the 2000 presidential election went the same as OTL with George W. Bush narrowly defeating Al Gore despite the latter winning the popular.

The 2004 presidential election has John Kerry narrowly defeating Bush. Was it Kerry or Bush who won the popular vote in this scenario?

The 2008 presidential election has John McCain defeat Kerry by a decent margin. This is likely due to the Late 2000s Recession, though without the War on Terror or the Iraq War, it probably wouldn't be as bad compared to OTL.

I wonder if John McCain will win reelection in 2012 or if he'll lose to the Democratic candidate.
Kerry does not win the popular vote in 2004.

Yes, the Great Recession was why Kerry lost in 2008, but it was also because of the negative stigma around John Edwards, who resigned months before the election due to the public learning about his affair. Another reason was the Russians invading Georgia, to which the Republicans used to say that Kerry was a weak President on Foreign Policy; GWB even said that if he were President, Russia would have never invaded Georgia.

McCain won re-election in 2012 against Democrat Russ Feingold.
 
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Kerry does not win the popular vote in 2004.

Yes, the Great Recession was why Kerry lost in 2008, but it was also because of the negative stigma around John Kerry, who resigned months before the election due to the public learning about his affair. Another reason was the Russians invading Georgia, to which the Republicans used to say that Kerry was a weak President on Foreign Policy; GWB even said that if he were President, Russia would have never invaded Georgia.

McCain won re-election in 2012 against Democrat Russ Feingold.
Thanks for letting me know that Bush wins the popular vote in 2004 despite losing the electoral college. Also thanks for letting me know about 2012.

However, I think you mean John Edwards (Kerry's VP) resigning months before the election due to his affair, not Kerry himself.
 
McCain won re-election in 2012 against Democrat Russ Feingold.
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Election of 2012

Red-Republican-John McCain
Blue-Democrat-Russ Feingold

In 2008, John McCain was elected President of the United States, the first President to win both the electoral and popular vote since Bill Clinton. The economy was starting to improve by the election due to a non-partisan coalition of Democrats and Republicans following the 2010 Midterms. Abroad the McCain administration would support rebel groups in the Arab World during the Arab Spring. The most notable were Iraqi Republicans and Kurdish Separatists during the 2011 Iraqi Civil War and the moderate Syrian rebels during the Syrian Civil War of 2011-13.
McCain was easily renominated as the Republican candidate. However, the Democrats had chosen Russ Feingold of Wisconsin as their candidate. Feingold campaigned himself as a moderate and gave the Democrats most of the credit for the economy improving. While the Democrats had retaken all of the states in the Blue Wall and even taken Virginia and maintained their hold on the House, McCain was re-elected President, and the Republicans held their hold on the Senate.
 
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Some backstory for this post

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Picture of the statue of Saddam Hussein being removed following the rebel capture of Baghdad in the 2011 Iraqi Civil War.


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Picture of protests against Saddam Hussein's government, Baghdad, Iraq, February 2011.

In February of 2011, protests, inspired by the Arab Spring, came to Iraq. The Iraqi military responded using brute force, which caused some in the Iraqi military to desert and give their weapons to the protests. In the Summer of that year, after rebels had driven the military out of Basra, the Republic of Iraq was declared. The 2011 Iraqi Civil War has begun.
 
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Are these posts all supposed to be from a single TL or from multiple different TLs? There's some that directly conflict with each other (e.g., there's a couple that directly contradict each other in regards to who runs for president for the Democrats in 2008).
 
Are these posts all supposed to be from a single TL or from multiple different TLs? There's some that directly conflict with each other (e.g., there's a couple that directly contradict each other in regards to who runs for president for the Democrats in 2008).
I think theyre from any TL whose POD is 9/11 not happening
 
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