Soviet Union Unites the Planet?

[RealityX]

How plausible do you think it is for a single world communist state to occur by the year 2000? What would be the best POD's for a 'RED PLANET'

Personally I think a communist Germany (instead of Nazi) aligned or part of the Soviet Union would be the best bet for a single world state. What do you think?

[Doraemon]

Imo, I think that any single world state scenario without the use of nukes is largely asb.

[Solomaxwell6]

I think a single world-state is nigh impossible, a world-state united by the Soviets is even unlikelier. Germany would certainly help, but by 2000? Unlikely. As long as both the US and Britain remain as part of the First World, the Soviet Union will be hard-pressed to conquer them without starting a nuclear war. Your best bet is having the US have a democratically elected Socialist (or even Communist) government. Imagine the political landscape during and after WW2 with a Communist America!

Just a silly little map. Not pictured are unified Korea and the Democratic Republic of Japan. Yugoslavia is firmly in the Soviet/American sphere this time around. Sorry for its ugliness, but I couldn't find a good post-WW2 Europe map, so I'm just blowing up Europe from a world map. Too lazy to fill it in, but B-W is sort of a French puppet (it's OTL's French Occupation Zone).




In the 1950s, Baden-Wurttenburg seeks annexation from RoG, which accepts. The Soviet Union invades BW, fearmongering, saying that Germany is just repeating its actions in the 30s (as if this runt Republic of Germany has anywhere near the same potential for destruction as Nazi Germany ). France moves in to defend its ally, sparking WW3. Britain soon joins in, as does the United States. China and Japan uses the distraction to set up Ho Chi Minh and other Communist leaders in Indochina.

A decade later, America, Russia, and China have won. America has directly annexed Canada, and much of Central and South America are in its influence. Mainland Europe have all joined the Soviet sphere. Britain is free, but has lost its empire and is now only a minor power. China and Japan are allied to make a third Communist grouping, and have influence in New Zealand, Indochina, and other large chunks of SE Asia/Oceania. One by one, the remaining free nations fall to the three great Communist groupings. In the year 1999, Soviet Premier Putin hosts the annual meeting of the Comintern. In honor of the new millenium, and the fall of the last Capitalist/Imperialist nation in 1997 (Australia, now just one more puppet member of the Shanghai Pact), they decide to establish the Comintern as a true world government, having precedence over their own respective nations.


ASB, I know, but a fun little TL for me to wile away my time with.

[Admiral Matt]

Very, very, very, very hard.

I think I've worked out a fairly reasonable scenario for a Soviet Europe and a Soviet most-of-Asia. If done in the right time frame that would effectively mean dominance over Africa and the rest of Asia indirectly. But if even Britain is difficult to imagine falling without a prior carpet-nuking, how are the Soviets getting at Brazil and Australia? [Forgetting for a moment that America's even there.]

[RedRalphWiggum]

Superman lands in the Ukraine

[Blue Max]

What about Suslov's Missile?

Is it possible for the Soviet Union to pull that one off? Start a Nuclear War between China and the USA while the Soviets sit back and smile in the warm glow of distant fireworks?

(I still can't believe that was actually tried. I'd be the first one to point out that the USA might hit the Soviets for Everything on that one...)

[Geekhis Khan]

Originally Posted by Blue Max

What about Suslov's Missile?

Is it possible for the Soviet Union to pull that one off? Start a Nuclear War between China and the USA while the Soviets sit back and smile in the warm glow of distant fireworks?

(I still can't believe that was actually tried. I'd be the first one to point out that the USA might hit the Soviets for Everything on that one...)

I hadn't heard about that one!

My lord, it's like a SPECTRE plot from a bad Moore Bond movie!!

To the question, I'd think hoping for the two enemies to conviniently annihilate each other without either of them nuking their mutual enemy while they're at it is insanely optimistic at best, IMO. I'd suspect some sort of hurried diplomatic deal as the Chinese rush to deny any responsibility. Once the missile remains are identified as Soviet there will be hell to pay for the USSR as both the US and China suddenly find the USSR to be overwhelmingly their common and very hostile enemy.